Chelokee

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Linny

Is that the maiden that was second in the UAE Derby?

Linny,

Yes.. Jack Junior. Pretty intriguing given trainer Brian Meehan who is as sharp
a conditioner as there is in the world. For that colt to turn in the effort he did off two 7f grass starts in September, is incredible. And the fact that he was ONLY 50-1 in the race gives an indication that Euro punters were hip to the possibility that Jack Junior was ready to run.

[Linny]

Indeed, off the form, that colt should have been 200-1 against Asiatic Boy and Eu Tambem, who all but failed to show up.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Linny,

Yes.. Jack Junior. Pretty intriguing given trainer Brian Meehan who is as sharp
a conditioner as there is in the world. For that colt to turn in the effort he did off two 7f grass starts in September, is incredible. And the fact that he was ONLY 50-1 in the race gives an indication that Euro punters were hip to the possibility that Jack Junior was ready to run.

Of course if would actually win a race.....

[eajinabi]

I do not think Owners/trainers will bypass the derby off of one bad race. If curlin or cobalt blue bomb in thier next prep I really think they will still go for the derby unless these horses were injured. Its the big dance and this is where every owner/trainer is targeting for.

Honestly BIRDBIRD should bypass cause he had 2 bad races. Sam P. will make it on the list after winning this weekends SA DERBY.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

I do not think Owners/trainers will bypass the derby off of one bad race. If curlin or cobalt blue bomb in thier next prep I really think they will still go for the derby unless these horses were injured. Its the big dance and this is where every owner/trainer is targeting for.

Honestly BIRDBIRD should bypass cause he had 2 bad races. Sam P. will make it on the list after winning this weekends SA DERBY.

He better tell Liquidity that!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Honestly BIRDBIRD should bypass cause he had 2 bad races.

I bet he will run

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I bet he will run

i bet he will finish 18-20 somewhere in there

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i bet he will finish 18-20 somewhere in there

I think he has no chance but McP loves the spotlight even if he has zero chance.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think he has no chance but McP loves the spotlight even if he has zero chance.

i see what your saying, it just bothers me that a horse that has no chance will run and a up and coming horse like chelokee might have to sit out.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think he has no chance but McP loves the spotlight even if he has zero chance.

Exactly right...which is why the system is dysfunctional. Congratulations for Delta for having a $1 million race, but it must be stripped of its graded status if the system stays like this. The WinStar Derby has no grade, neither the Southwest and those races have had more Derby contenders than the Delta Jackpot.

NT