No Wood for Circular Quay

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

What are the odds that Pletcher doesn't win the Derby with any of his hopefuls???

i'd say 50-1

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i'd say 50-1

Are you booking that?

[whodey17]

Quay has plenty of foundation so that is the only good thing. The Derby just isnt a good race for Quay with or without a race leading up to the Derby. He would have to pass 19 other horses and that just doesnt happen. I havent liked the handling of Quay at all this spring. I think the LA route was the wrong thing to do.

You have the SA Derby, Illinois Derby, Bluegrass, Arkansas Derby and the Coolmore left to get your graded money. So there are plenty of races left for Pletchers horses to try to get their needed money.

[PPerfectfan]

Well I am a getting.....getting off the CQ bandwagon right now. 8 weeks? never gonna happen. I wouldnt be shocked to see an announcement soon. dang.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by whodey17

Quay has plenty of foundation so that is the only good thing. The Derby just isnt a good race for Quay with or without a race leading up to the Derby. He would have to pass 19 other horses and that just doesnt happen. I havent liked the handling of Quay at all this spring. I think the LA route was the wrong thing to do.

You have the SA Derby, Illinois Derby, Bluegrass, Arkansas Derby and the Coolmore left to get your graded money. So there are plenty of races left for Pletchers horses to try to get their needed money.

Giacomo didnt have to pass 19 of em but he sure passed most of em... I'll never forget the first time I saw the blimp view, Mike Smith was movin that horse boy...Its a shame Rose let up on Alex for we would have another tc winner... O well , the mystique continues

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Are you booking that?

maybe

[King Glorious]

I shouldn't have to start with this but on these boards, sometimes it's necessary.......I'm sure Pletcher knows his horses better than I do. Now, having said that, I don't like this at all. I'm not too concerned about the layoff. In today's game, it's just not as big a deal as it used to be. Used to be that u could count out all of the horses using only two preps because 90% of the field had three. Not this year. A couple of contenders will be coming in with only two so it's not as big a disadvantage now. I believe that Notional and Scat Daddy are the two biggest obstacles for Circular Quay to have to beat in the Derby.....and both of them will be coming in off of a five week layoff, which everyone said couldn't be done......until last year. So the game has changed and along with it, many old "rules" are being changed also. So the layoff is not a huge concern. Of course, it's not ideal but it's not that big a deal to me. What I find of greater interest is the fact that they had a plan for Any Given Saturday and now they are changing it, leading me to believe that he will be one work short for this race. I think this is going to be the last time we see this horse this year.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I shouldn't have to start with this but on these boards, sometimes it's necessary.......I'm sure Pletcher knows his horses better than I do. Now, having said that, I don't like this at all. I'm not too concerned about the layoff. In today's game, it's just not as big a deal as it used to be. Used to be that u could count out all of the horses using only two preps because 90% of the field had three. Not this year. A couple of contenders will be coming in with only two so it's not as big a disadvantage now. I believe that Notional and Scat Daddy are the two biggest obstacles for Circular Quay to have to beat in the Derby.....and both of them will be coming in off of a five week layoff, which everyone said couldn't be done......until last year. So the game has changed and along with it, many old "rules" are being changed also. So the layoff is not a huge concern. Of course, it's not ideal but it's not that big a deal to me. What I find of greater interest is the fact that they had a plan for Any Given Saturday and now they are changing it, leading me to believe that he will be one work short for this race. I think this is going to be the last time we see this horse this year.

Another hard race for AGS. He's toast now. Brilliant plan. Send a short horse to a race that's supposed to be easier and he still doesn't crack the top two. How much did he earn today? Great plan. I'm glad as hell that it blew up in their faces.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Another hard race for AGS. He's toast now. Brilliant plan. Send a short horse to a race that's supposed to be easier and he still doesn't crack the top two. How much did he earn today? Great plan. I'm glad as hell that it blew up in their faces.

75k.

how much did he need? more than that, then yeah, the plan blew up.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Danzig

75k.

how much did he need? more than that, then yeah, the plan blew up.

If they were just looking for an easier race where he could get the earnings needed, I don't understand why they didn't go in the SA Derby or the Illinois Derby or hell, even the Transylvania.