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Old 04-02-2007, 07:00 PM
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I can't believe some of the comments I'm reading here saying that a jockey should not look back. Every good jockey looks around and looks back. Most of the decisions that a jockey makes in a race are based on how the race is unfolding. The jockey needs to be aware of where the competition is.

With regard to Jara, it was important for him to look back to see if anyone was coming. As long as nobody was coming, he could ride more patiently. If he saw some horse making a big move, he would have needed to move a little sooner.

Anyway, I wouldn't have much problem with the Sheik's criticism, if the criticism was legitimate. However, the criticism was not legitimate. Jara rode the horse perfectly. I'm not saying that just because he won. I've seen plenty of horses win that get bad rides, but this was not one of them. The stretch is very long in Dubai. You don't want to ask your horse for everything at the top of the lane if you think the main competition is behind you and you think you have the horse in front of you measured.

If Jara would have asked his horse for everything at the top of the lane and then got run down right at the wire by Discreet Cat, that would have been a bad ride. That would have been a premature move.
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Old 04-02-2007, 07:05 PM
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If Jara would have asked his horse for everything at the top of the lane and then got run down right at the wire by Discreet Cat, that would have been a bad ride. That would have been a premature move.
Invasor doesn't get run down by anyone---and Discreet Cat isn't a closer.

One is a closer and the other is a speed horse---who should be several lengths in front, when running at that distance.
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Old 04-02-2007, 07:07 PM
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Invasor doesn't get run down by anyone---and Discreet Cat isn't a closer.

One is a closer and the other is a speed horse---who should be several lengths in front, when running at that distance.
Invasor probably doesn't get run down by anyone if he's ridden right. But if he moves way too soon and there is some monster behind him, anything is possible.
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Old 04-02-2007, 10:23 PM
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Invasor probably doesn't get run down by anyone if he's ridden right. But if he moves way too soon and there is some monster behind him, anything is possible.
see the replay of last years whitney at saratoga. jara had to save what horse he had left because sun king was breathing down his kneck. he barely won. you are right. that sheik is an idiot. they all look back. sometimes its showboating but many times the jock has an idea of who the main comp is before the race(and they try to see where they are) . in the witney he chased the pace because it was easy and you can't let premium tap get away. he put 2 horses away and then came the fresh challange of sun king. jara saw him coming and had just enough to hold the win. class is how hard you can run the last 10 yards of the race not the middle 10. if you have the horse in front of you measured why push the pedal to floor before the end. one main reason the horse is great , is the trainer. look what the morons did to the career of the "other" favorite (DC). the shiek should keep his big mouth shut and walk to the winners circle after the race!

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Old 04-03-2007, 11:28 AM
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Invasor probably doesn't get run down by anyone if he's ridden right. But if he moves way too soon and there is some monster behind him, anything is possible.
Right. Cigar got run down by Dare & Go because Bailey was so worried about the speed horse (Siphon?) getting away from him. That's how one long winning streak ended.

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Old 04-02-2007, 07:21 PM
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Anyway, I wouldn't have much problem with the Sheik's criticism, if the criticism was legitimate. However, the criticism was not legitimate. Jara rode the horse perfectly. I'm not saying that just because he won. I've seen plenty of horses win that get bad rides, but this was not one of them.
Jara says to him yes my Lord, yes my Lordship, and then pockets the check and forgets about it. Thats the only way to play that game.
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