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Old 03-29-2007, 09:38 AM
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DrD: Very Sobering stats you put up. Didn't think it was that advanced in Tonys' case. Clearly, he needs a miracle to see his kids grow up. Thanks for the info.
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it is sobering...the whole situation is. his mother passed away from colon cancer, so every six months he was having tests run--and still developed the disease-stage three i believe when they found it and removed his colon. and i understand that generally when you have colon cancer, the liver IS next-but his cancer has spread to other places as well, but they haven't yet said where. it is attacked to, but not inside his liver-whether that is better or worse, or has no bearing i don't know.
i know he is in the right frame of mind, wants to attack it as aggressively as possible. i also know that from what i've read, no one is suggesting that this is a death sentence, and all i've seen has said he can live for years with what he has-much like mrs edwards, her cancer is no longer curable but is treatable. i haven't seen yet that tony snows is incurable-everything i've seen to this point seems very optimistic.
what scares me is that he was on the offensive about the disease, developed it anyway-had his entire colon removed and six months chemo-and that wasn't that long ago...and he's had it recur and spread with all that aggressive treatment. very scary!
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:03 AM
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Danzig, did you read all of DrD's post? It reveals a great deal regarding the peril this man is in.

Would I spend my remaining time involved in every chemo/radiation treatment available?

No, I probably would not. I'd prefer, in the precious number of days that I may have--to be as clear minded as I could possibly manage, with as an acceptable level of pain as I can absolutely tolerate.

At some point, our family and our days living, being with them, mean more than the cancer. Far, far more. Mr Snow may be at that point.


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it is sobering...the whole situation is. his mother passed away from colon cancer, so every six months he was having tests run--and still developed the disease-stage three i believe when they found it and removed his colon. and i understand that generally when you have colon cancer, the liver IS next-but his cancer has spread to other places as well, but they haven't yet said where. it is attacked to, but not inside his liver-whether that is better or worse, or has no bearing i don't know.
i know he is in the right frame of mind, wants to attack it as aggressively as possible. i also know that from what i've read, no one is suggesting that this is a death sentence, and all i've seen has said he can live for years with what he has-much like mrs edwards, her cancer is no longer curable but is treatable. i haven't seen yet that tony snows is incurable-everything i've seen to this point seems very optimistic.
what scares me is that he was on the offensive about the disease, developed it anyway-had his entire colon removed and six months chemo-and that wasn't that long ago...and he's had it recur and spread with all that aggressive treatment. very scary!
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Old 03-29-2007, 10:07 AM
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Thank you all so much for all of this.






It's really great.
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Old 03-29-2007, 01:48 PM
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Morte' I hope this was a serious note from you.

I am much concerned for this man and his family. He's quite a young man to face this tragedy. And I appreciate what DrD wrote, as I've had family members (aunts and uncles) lost to colon cancer.


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Thank you all so much for all of this.






It's really great.
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Old 03-29-2007, 03:41 PM
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I disagree Grits, I think you try the therapy and see what happens. I had a cousin who developed aspergillis(sp) while on a ventilator. They gave me 0% to live. He said that everyone who has ever contracted this while on the vent had died. Gave him two weeks to live..... That was 6 years ago, and he's cancer free and doing great. Whether you call it a miracle for those who believe in god, or pure luck, I dont think you ever give up hope. It's not looking great for him but 1 in 10 live past five years. While those are horrible odds, he still has a chance.

Maybe thats just me though, I would rather fight until i was sure nothing would work.
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Morte' I hope this was a serious note from you.

I am much concerned for this man and his family. He's quite a young man to face this tragedy. And I appreciate what DrD wrote, as I've had family members (aunts and uncles) lost to colon cancer.
It wasn't.

But it was my opinion.



Cancer is cancer.....drowning is drowning.....heart attacks are heart attacks....suicide is suicide and murder is murder......people die at 3...some at 103.......some are famous.....most are not.....everyone knows someone close to them who has died of something...people are dying everywhere as we type......a lot of deaths are unpleasant.......




But I don't understand why people love to chit chat about it.




It's just my opinion and I won't respond in here anymore.


Now that I've said this I'm sure a safe will fall on me.
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:08 PM
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Not a problem.
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:29 PM
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It wasn't.

But it was my opinion.



Cancer is cancer.....drowning is drowning.....heart attacks are heart attacks....suicide is suicide and murder is murder......people die at 3...some at 103.......some are famous.....most are not.....everyone knows someone close to them who has died of something...people are dying everywhere as we type......a lot of deaths are unpleasant.......




But I don't understand why people love to chit chat about it.




It's just my opinion and I won't respond in here anymore.


Now that I've said this I'm sure a safe will fall on me.
which makes one wonder why you'd enter this thread to begin with-you'd have had to realize what the topic of conversation would be.
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Danzig, did you read all of DrD's post? It reveals a great deal regarding the peril this man is in.

Would I spend my remaining time involved in every chemo/radiation treatment available?

No, I probably would not. I'd prefer, in the precious number of days that I may have--to be as clear minded as I could possibly manage, with as an acceptable level of pain as I can absolutely tolerate.

At some point, our family and our days living, being with them, mean more than the cancer. Far, far more. Mr Snow may be at that point.
i read it. it would depend on what the doctor had to say. if having treatment meant more time-but pain-filled, i wouldn't go that route either. it just depends. but everyone has to make up their own mind-tony snow might look it it differently. believe me, i'm not taking a pollyanna view of this- i think he's up against it--but i hope for the best for him.
call me a cynical optimist-i think the world has gone to ish, but i'm hopeful that it will improve! i love a happy ending....
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