2008 Breeders Cup at Santa Anita?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

For weather it sure does make sense....Your fine dining happiness on BC day is not that important to me. Its the racing that matters. Put on your timberland boots Andy, I know you have them, and your Northface jacket and let's roll.

It isn't about " fine dining ". and I would hope you didn't mean that, it is about dining areas that are enclosed. Belmont and Woodbine have plenty....Saratoga has NONE.

[Mortimer]

Someone in here is being HIGHLY amusing.



I'm just not saying who.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It isn't about " fine dining ". and I would hope you didn't mean that, it is about dining areas that are enclosed. Belmont and Woodbine have plenty....Saratoga has NONE.

A roll of the dice on the weather. I'm willing to do it.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

A roll of the dice on the weather. I'm willing to do it.

Thankfully nobody in the decision process is.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Thankfully nobody in the decision process is.

Not yet...Are you happy they are having it at Monmouth? I'm not particularly.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Not yet...Are you happy they are having it at Monmouth? I'm not particularly.

Happy? I think it is better off at Belmont, but trying a new spot adds some spice to it, and at least it's relatively close to where I live. I'm reasonably indifferent.

You have to realize, nobody loves Saratoga more than me, and a lot of the inconveniences felt by the masses wouldn't be as acute for me ( seating and dealing with restaurants ). However, because the POSSIBLE disaster that could accompany it so far outweighs the positives, I just feel it is logistically impossible. When Saratoga gets in the mid 60s, which it certainly did last year during Labor Day weekend, it is uncomfortable. I shudder to think how bad it would be if it was even 10-15 degrees colder. And, quite frankly, it rates to be even worse than that.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Happy? I think it is better off at Belmont, but trying a new spot adds some spice to it, and at least it's relatively close to where I live. I'm reasonably indifferent.

You have to realize, nobody loves Saratoga more than me, and a lot of the inconveniences felt by the masses wouldn't be as acute for me ( seating and dealing with restaurants ). However, because the POSSIBLE disaster that could accompany it so far outweighs the positives, I just feel it is logistically impossible. When Saratoga gets in the mid 60s, which it certainly did last year during Labor Day weekend, it is uncomfortable. I shudder to think how bad it would be if it was even 10-15 degrees colder. And, quite frankly, it rates to be even worse than that.

New spot spice....Where is the next newbie to be tried? Fair Grounds hasn't had a Cup yet, right? Am I forgetting one

[PPerfectfan]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

New spot spice....Where is the next newbie to be tried? Fair Grounds hasn't had a Cup yet, right? Am I forgetting one

Oh my dont get my hopes up. Fair Grounds, right up the road. I would be in heaven!

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Happy? I think it is better off at Belmont, but trying a new spot adds some spice to it, and at least it's relatively close to where I live. I'm reasonably indifferent.

You have to realize, nobody loves Saratoga more than me, and a lot of the inconveniences felt by the masses wouldn't be as acute for me ( seating and dealing with restaurants ). However, because the POSSIBLE disaster that could accompany it so far outweighs the positives, I just feel it is logistically impossible. When Saratoga gets in the mid 60s, which it certainly did last year during Labor Day weekend, it is uncomfortable. I shudder to think how bad it would be if it was even 10-15 degrees colder. And, quite frankly, it rates to be even worse than that.

in what way do you feel its uncomfortable at saratoga when its in the mid 60's, you have definitly lost me here, i go up 2-3 a week, all meet and i have been there when it is in the 60's and i think its very nice.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

in what way do you feel its uncomfortable at saratoga when its in the mid 60's, you have definitly lost me here, i go up 2-3 a week, all meet and i have been there when it is in the 60's and i think its very nice.

My point was that it is not especially comfortable when it gets in the mid 60s, which it did on only a few occasions over the last few years ( I go every day and have for the majority of the last 32 meets ) and thus it will be much worse if 20 degrees colder.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Happy? I think it is better off at Belmont, but trying a new spot adds some spice to it, and at least it's relatively close to where I live. I'm reasonably indifferent.

You have to realize, nobody loves Saratoga more than me, and a lot of the inconveniences felt by the masses wouldn't be as acute for me ( seating and dealing with restaurants ). However, because the POSSIBLE disaster that could accompany it so far outweighs the positives, I just feel it is logistically impossible. When Saratoga gets in the mid 60s, which it certainly did last year during Labor Day weekend, it is uncomfortable. I shudder to think how bad it would be if it was even 10-15 degrees colder. And, quite frankly, it rates to be even worse than that.

Agree (esp the Belmont comment). I was on the grounds for the Fall Mixed Sale on October 15 and froze my butt off.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Agree all around (esp the Belmont comment). I was on the grounds for the Fall Mixed Sale on October 15 and froze my butt off.

Dress warmer...The horses are the ones who we worry about and they'll eat up that crisp air. Mmmmm.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Happy? I think it is better off at Belmont, but trying a new spot adds some spice to it, and at least it's relatively close to where I live. I'm reasonably indifferent.

You have to realize, nobody loves Saratoga more than me, and a lot of the inconveniences felt by the masses wouldn't be as acute for me ( seating and dealing with restaurants ). However, because the POSSIBLE disaster that could accompany it so far outweighs the positives, I just feel it is logistically impossible. When Saratoga gets in the mid 60s, which it certainly did last year during Labor Day weekend, it is uncomfortable. I shudder to think how bad it would be if it was even 10-15 degrees colder. And, quite frankly, it rates to be even worse than that.

Mid 60's on Labor Day in Saratoga, is uncomfortable?

You might want to see a doctor about a circulation problem.

Also a quick look at the past years weather in Saratoga in October and I think you would see that the weather isn't the problem for Saratoga holding a BC. I agree about other logistic problems, but the weather in October, even possibly the first weekend in November should be fine.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by ARyan

Mid 60's on Labor Day in Saratoga, is uncomfortable?

You might want to see a doctor about a circulation problem.

Also a quick look at the past years weather in Saratoga in October and I think you would see that the weather isn't the problem for Saratoga holding a BC. I agree about other logistic problems, but the weather in October, even possibly the first weekend in November should be fine.

The weather could very well be almost fine, though I don't think you are taking into account the difference between being used to the crisp Fall weather in Saratoga and asking 50,000 people to brave a long day completely uncovered in it. I love Saratoga in the Fall, and have spent a reasonable part of my life enjoying it, but that doesn't necessarily translate into acceptable BC weather.

The other problem is the very real chance that the weather is far from fine. You know, to keep harping on what I said about last year's Labor Day weather is missing the point. Saratoga is a summer track, and when the weather gets into the mid 60s, as it did last year on Labor Day weekend, it is not as comfortable as most people like. Is it bad? Of course not.....but it's also not the weather one associates with Saratoga.