Appearance Fees

It is like the horse/trainer/owner is a whore. They are saying, "hey give us money and we will show up." So Monmouth offers $50k, someone else offers more--so you go to the highest bidder--that is like a whore. I dont think that many people showed up to Monmouth to see Funny Cide that normally wouldnt have been there. I think it is a bad practice.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

It is like the horse/trainer/owner is a whore. They are saying, "hey give us money and we will show up." So Monmouth offers $50k, someone else offers more--so you go to the highest bidder--that is like a whore. I dont think that many people showed up to Monmouth to see Funny Cide that normally wouldnt have been there. I think it is a bad practice.

Basically you begrudge hard working guys a chance to make a buck. Nonsense is what that is. Its called capitalism.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

its not that ..it was nice to see cigar but he faced no one and even jerry couldnt make it look good....as for apperace fees i think they are great..why not they need to cover transport and such.. im sure it cost baffert that much to get him and his crew the horse ect to a track he doesnt normally go too....hedging his bets..its just good bns,,

Originally Posted by oracle80

Basically you begrudge hard working guys a chance to make a buck. Nonsense is what that is. Its called capitalism.

Capitalism--lol. It is called bribery.

[blackthroatedwind]

The appearance fee problem is in giving money to the trainer, and of course that's where Baffert go in trouble, in that it should obviously be paid to the owner.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The appearance fee problem is in giving money to the trainer, and of course that's where Baffert go in trouble, in that it should obviously be paid to the owner.

I agree with that 100%. If you are going to pay a fee it should go to the owner.

[blackthroatedwind]

It's not dissimilar to my feelings about jockey's and advertising. If the jockey wants to, at least, split the money with the owner it's fine, but how the owner could be cut out is beyond me.

I have no problem with people profiting legitimately but it's all about fairness.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's not dissimilar to my feelings about jockey's and advertising. If the jockey wants to, at least, split the money with the owner it's fine, but how the owner could be cut out is beyond me.

I have no problem with people profiting legitimately but it's all about fairness.

Yeah no kidding. If you are going to pay $50k for Prado to wear advertising on his pants while he is riding your horse then you should get a cut of the money. I agree 100% again.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I agree with that 100%. If you are going to pay a fee it should go to the owner.

Owners don't care. If your horse is so good that the trainer can get an appearance fee, the owner is more than happy to let the trainer keep it. Only great horses get trainers appearance fees. The purse usually is big enough.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

Owners don't care. If your horse is so good that the trainer can get an appearance fee, the owner is more than happy to let the trainer keep it. Only great horses get trainers appearance fees. The purse usually is big enough.

And you are basing this on.....what?


My guess is that owners, the ones who pay for everything AND give 10% to the trainer AND jockey when they win, might be more than interested in appearance fees should they be given.