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Old 03-20-2007, 11:06 AM
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I think the Cigar Mile is a great name for the race. I also don't mind that there's a Shecky Greene Stakes run for like $40k each year even though most of today's racing fans have any idea who Shecky Greene is or was, at least the horse that is.

What am I saying? If some HBPA or track or Jockey Club wants to name a stakes race after a horse, then so be it. It's their prerogative.
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:06 AM
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Let's give Wilko a race? The One Hit Wonder race. A Grade 4.
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:07 AM
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I think the Cigar Mile is a great name for the race. I also don't mind that there's a Shecky Greene Stakes run for like $40k each year even though most of today's racing fans have any idea who Shecky Greene is or was, at least the horse that is.

What am I saying? If some HBPA or track or Jockey Club wants to name a stakes race after a horse, then so be it. It's their prerogative.

The Cigar Mile was fine, as it was previously the NYRA Mile, and changing it only added to history for a relatively new race.
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:11 AM
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I think all Thoroughbred tracks would be a better place if each had a small museum in them of the great moments in that tracks history. Racing really needs to remember when it was great and to give something good and historic for parents to show children that come to the track.

I guess for now, a lesson in how to operate the ingenious "Horse Wizard" machines will have to do.
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:14 AM
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When I started going to Saratoga as a kid, in 1975, I went in when the track opened and every day started with a " movie " about a past race or horse. I used to love those. Considering their vast video/film library and I see no reason not to attempt to reinstate this. Can't hurt.
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:16 AM
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When I started going to Saratoga as a kid, in 1975, I went in when the track opened and every day started with a " movie " about a past race or horse. I used to love those. Considering their vast video/film library and I see no reason not to attempt to reinstate this. Can't hurt.
Now we have Nader doing bits. Although I like them.
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:17 AM
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When I started going to Saratoga as a kid, in 1975, I went in when the track opened and every day started with a " movie " about a past race or horse. I used to love those. Considering their vast video/film library and I see no reason not to attempt to reinstate this. Can't hurt.
I agree. It would definitely help to educate newer fans on the history of whatever track they may be at.
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I'm going to look for the Ellis Park Country Music Theme Song/Video to sway opinions to "HELL NO!"
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:18 AM
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Who was Barbara Fritchie anyway? Or Lazara Berrerro?
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:21 AM
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Who was Barbara Fritchie anyway? Or Lazara Berrerro?
LOL

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Old 03-20-2007, 11:25 AM
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I mean, we have a freaking stakes named after a yellow ribbon! Smarty Jones definitely deserved a stakes race.
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:32 AM
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I mean, we have a freaking stakes named after a yellow ribbon! Smarty Jones definitely deserved a stakes race.

Smarty Jones deserves NOTHING. He raced, he won, he raced, he lost, he got a mild injury and his owners took the money and ran....and then blamed others.

He is the most glaring recent example of people's lack of knowledge of the history of the game.
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:45 AM
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Smarty Jones deserves NOTHING. He raced, he won, he raced, he lost, he got a mild injury and his owners took the money and ran....and then blamed others.

He is the most glaring recent example of people's lack of knowledge of the history of the game.
Amen!
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Old 03-20-2007, 12:33 PM
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Smarty Jones deserves NOTHING. He raced, he won, he raced, he lost, he got a mild injury and his owners took the money and ran....and then blamed others.

He is the most glaring recent example of people's lack of knowledge of the history of the game.
I have to defend the Chapman's decision. Not because retirement was the right thing initially (after further medical exams 3 months after the retirement, it turned out to be the right decision) but because of how the whole thing played out. It was simply based on the vets recommendation. It wasn't until the conference call when Larry Bramledge made the comments he made that put the Chapmans in a bad spot. Was there money involved? Absolutely! You had investors paying big numbers to purchase a share of the 50% that was available. Was money the deciding factor? No. It was for the love of the horse that the decision was made.
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:30 AM
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Who was Barbara Fritchie anyway? Or Lazara Berrerro?

You're not serious? You don't know who Laz Barrerra was?
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