Any Given Saturday

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

He lost by a head bob while running significantly wider. How did he have everything going for him? Using the trainer's pre-race excuse in case his horse got beat is an absolutely silly justification that Street Sense wasn't fit. It was the first race off the layoff so was the best chance for AGS to beat him but SS got a much better trip which offset that. In the end there was virtually nothing separating the two. Street Sense and Any Given Saturday are the only two 3yos out there with two triple digit Beyers at this point. Only Nobiz Like Shobiz has a better 3rd best Beyer than AGS (by one point). To dismiss him off this race is borderline insane.

im not dismissing him off this race, i never thought he could win the derby, even before this race i thought he was solid but not good enough and i still feel the same way he's a good second tier horse, and i'd be shocked if he won the bluegrass or kentucky derby

[JDank34]

I feel that Street Sense and Any Given Saturday will run 1-2 in THE Derby.....They are the 2 best of their generation....Also, I am a huge SS fan and have been since day one...I feel he is a better horse than AGS, but I also feel AGS would be better off if JV chose CQ or another of TP's ponies. I think AGS needs a rider who can throw him down until they are ready to push the button. No knock on JV, I just feel that GoGo, Cornelio or Prado even are better fits for him than JV.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by JDank34

I feel that Street Sense and Any Given Saturday will run 1-2 in THE Derby.....They are the 2 best of their generation....Also, I am a huge SS fan and have been since day one...I feel he is a better horse than AGS, but I also feel AGS would be better off if JV chose CQ or another of TP's ponies. I think AGS needs a rider who can throw him down until they are ready to push the button. No knock on JV, I just feel that GoGo, Cornelio or Prado even are better fits for him than JV.

Wow, that is a prediction right there. I'd say neither will be in the superfecta.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Wow, that is a prediction right there. I'd say neither will be in the superfecta.

wow those are both bold predictions, i would be shocked if any given saturday runs in the top 5 on derby day, and i would not be shocked if street sense were to win

I'm going to say Scat Daddy will run dead last because this prediction thing is awesom.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I'm going to say Scat Daddy will run dead last because this prediction thing is awesom.

You know you can bet who runs last in the race.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I'm going to say Scat Daddy will run dead last because this prediction thing is awesom.

i might get down on that bet

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i might get down on that bet

As am I....and I am eagerly awaiting your Derby selection before making that bet.

[JJP]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

wow those are both bold predictions, i would be shocked if any given saturday runs in the top 5 on derby day, and i would not be shocked if street sense were to win

Fast pace, SS saves every inch of ground and an absolute perfect trip and he wins by about an inch. AGS was closer to the fast pace and lost more ground. AGS probably ran the superior race. So how do you see one possibly winning and the other not cracking the top 5?

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by JJP

Fast pace, SS saves every inch of ground and an absolute perfect trip and he wins by about an inch. AGS was closer to the fast pace and lost more ground. AGS probably ran the superior race. So how do you see one possibly winning and the other not cracking the top 5?

What you say is true, but you could also look at the race this way, AGS had a race under him, and it was on that track. SS was coming off a long layoff and may have more room to improve off that effort than AGS. I am not saying I see it that way, but that would be a reasonable way to look at it.

[ceejay]

Maybe time will prove me wrong but I'm thinking the TB Dby will prove to be a "negative" key race.

Originally Posted by miraja2

What you say is true, but you could also look at the race this way, AGS had a race under him, and it was on that track. SS was coming off a long layoff and may have more room to improve off that effort than AGS. I am not saying I see it that way, but that would be a reasonable way to look at it.

SS has some very big efforts to back up this layoff. I think the quote above is the way most people look at it.

I still am wondering if people agree with Jerry Bailey saying he thinks this race may have been too much for Street Sense? Kind of like he would have wished the horse would have not put so much effort in down the stretch and run a comfy second.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by JDank34

I feel that Street Sense and Any Given Saturday will run 1-2 in THE Derby.....They are the 2 best of their generation....Also, I am a huge SS fan and have been since day one...I feel he is a better horse than AGS, but I also feel AGS would be better off if JV chose CQ or another of TP's ponies. I think AGS needs a rider who can throw him down until they are ready to push the button. No knock on JV, I just feel that GoGo, Cornelio or Prado even are better fits for him than JV.

jv is the best rider on the east coast, possibly in america, i think cornelio gomez and prado are all close but jv is the best, you can say its because of todd but when i watch i always see jv putting his horse in position to win