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Old 03-19-2007, 01:52 PM
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There is no way that any of us can give evidence of who's a better athlete. It's mostly a subjective opinion based on what we see.

I don't think he's going to be backing people down. Most of them are stronger than he is. Have u seen LeBron James? It's a lot easier said than done. But when u are primarily a perimeter player, u can't just adjust your game like that. People said the same thing would happen with Dirk against Bowen. But Bowen does a very effective job against him. Dirk can post but it's not his primary game. Same with Durant.

I didn't say that James and McGrady were great defensive players. I said those are the types of guys that will be guarding him. They are big enough to keep him off of the blocks and they are quick enough to stay with him on the perimeter. Durant is not like a Garnett, who has the ability, if guarded by a smaller player, to take them down inside. I just haven't seen that from Durant.

I don't think I ever made the argument that better athletes are better players. I would never make that argument. I think John Stockton was the best point guard I've ever seen play and I know he wasn't the best athlete out there.
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Old 03-19-2007, 03:18 PM
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im sad to see that Mark Price isnt in the conversation. Probably the most underrated superstar in the history of basketball
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Old 03-19-2007, 06:02 PM
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1. There is no way that any of us can give evidence of who's a better athlete. It's mostly a subjective opinion based on what we see.

2. I didn't say that James and McGrady were great defensive players. I said those are the types of guys that will be guarding him. They are big enough to keep him off of the blocks and they are quick enough to stay with him on the perimeter.
3. I don't think I ever made the argument that better athletes are better players. I would never make that argument. I think John Stockton was the best point guard I've ever seen play and I know he wasn't the best athlete out there.
1. so what have you seen? thats what I asked in the first place.
2. McGrady and Lebron would have to work to much on defense. Thats why they usually cover lesser offensive players on opposing teams. It also keeps them out of fould trouble. So I dont think they would cover a guy who will most likely keep progressing offensively like Durant probably will in the Pros
3. You listed them as super stars. I took that to mean best players. May have been my mistake.

Mark Price was good, but not for very long Seattle. Got hurt. And after that he was very average.
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:09 AM
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There is no way that any of us can give evidence of who's a better athlete. It's mostly a subjective opinion based on what we see.
You don't have to be a great athletically to be a great NBA player. Likewise, some of the most athletically gifted people in the world aren't nearly good enough to play a professional sport. I don't believe athleticism is subjective at all. Line two people up and run them through tests similar to the NFL combine. You'll easily find out who is more athletic. Dirk does move well for a 7 footer but he isn't as athletic as Durant. Throw me some names out guys of college freshman who were better than Durant is.
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You don't have to be a great athletically to be a great NBA player. Likewise, some of the most athletically gifted people in the world aren't nearly good enough to play a professional sport. I don't believe athleticism is subjective at all. Line two people up and run them through tests similar to the NFL combine. You'll easily find out who is more athletic. Dirk does move well for a 7 footer but he isn't as athletic as Durant. Throw me some names out guys of college freshman who were better than Durant is.
The NFL combine...the biggest pile of crap on the planet...Mike Mamula anyone???
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Old 03-23-2007, 02:27 AM
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The NFL combine...the biggest pile of crap on the planet...Mike Mamula anyone???
I totally agree the combine is crap and in a round about way that's my point. It is more a measure of athleticism than it is how good of a player will you be. Durant would do better than Dirk in every athletic test I can think of other than the bench. It doesn't mean he'll be a better player, but it does make him more athletic.
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