Tampa Bay Beyers

[VOL JACK]

I don't know waht the BSF came back from yesterday, but they were 15 points apart after running the same 7f on the same track in the same time. SW was 8-1 and ANY Limit was 9-5. The public bets the figs.

[Cannon Shell]

I know that only a few people pay any attention to Mountaineer but it seems like the beyers there are always inflated. I have seen a lot of mediocre, mid 60 Beyer horses ship there and suddenly run 80's or 90's. When they ship out of there they usually go back to the 60's. I knoew that this is not scientific and I have not bothered to do any real research but I always cast a bit of doubt on the numbers from there.

[VOL JACK]

DaHoss, You have to look @the pp's to really see what I am saying. I know I stated an opinion but I was really asking Andy for his.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I looked at the PP's for hours friday and saturday. I still have no idea what you are saying. I thought your BTW meant by the way, so my bad for answering. But I don't think you really see what I am saying.

Thanks for replying to my posts, I wanted others opinion. I just see red flags when the final times are the same and the BSF are 15 apart. I am not in any way critizing the guys who make the figs. they do a great job, 99%of the time. I will continue to value the beyers. As for Thorograph I am from the school of Serling on Ground loss and weight.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I know that only a few people pay any attention to Mountaineer but it seems like the beyers there are always inflated. I have seen a lot of mediocre, mid 60 Beyer horses ship there and suddenly run 80's or 90's. When they ship out of there they usually go back to the 60's. I knoew that this is not scientific and I have not bothered to do any real research but I always cast a bit of doubt on the numbers from there.

I atrribute that to a probably loose medication policy at Mountaineer....but I agree with you that numbers there don't seem to be reproduced at other tracks. Delaware is the same thing.....as is Laurel when they ship to NY.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I atrribute that to a probably loose medication policy at Mountaineer....but I agree with you that numbers there don't seem to be reproduced at other tracks. Delaware is the same thing.....as is Laurel when they ship to NY.

This predates the KY medication policy change. Back then you could do much more in KY than MNR but the same thing was happening. I thought that maybe since the pre-slot era level of competition was so low there that the baselines that they used were a little off now that semi-decent horses were running there.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This predates the KY medication policy change. Back then you could do much more in KY than MNR but the same thing was happening. I thought that maybe since the pre-slot era level of competition was so low there that the baselines that they used were a little off now that semi-decent horses were running there.

I suppose that's possible, and I will certainly try and get you an answer, but you know me, I always think it's medication related.

I'll check tomorrow.