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Old 03-17-2007, 09:32 PM
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All of a sudden the derby trail is starting to look a lot more interesting..
Absolutely! This performance coming in his first start around 2 turns and only his second start ever made the trail a lot more interesting than it would have been if...say....Teuflesberg won again.
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:36 PM
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i thought Teuflesberg broke poorly but found a quick opening on the rail. no questioning his heart but will he have his best on Derby day ? doubtful. Cobalt Blue , it was his race, he won like he should have and the Baffert horse now has his foundation. Curlin was very impressive. the 2 at the wire in Tampa looked good with the edge to AGS because of the outside trip.
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:41 PM
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I said it when he broke his maiden, and I will say it again...this is one of the best horses that I have seen. I don't know if this information is out yet, but he was a $57,000 yearling that was sold to Padua and Stonerside for $3.5 million. Nice profit. I hope they go the Preakness route with this horse instead of the Derby route, but I know that this most likely won't happen. He is very rushed to make it to the Derby. If they back off this horse, and give him a little more time, he could turn into the absolute monster that I believe him to be. Nice, nice, nice colt....
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:43 PM
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I hope they go the Preakness route with this horse instead of the Derby route, but I know that this most likely won't happen. He is very rushed to make it to the Derby.
You are probably right about this, but if he wins the Arkansas Derby this impressively.....how do you not take a shot in Kentucky?
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:47 PM
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I don't like it at all with just three lifetime starts. I don't believe a horse has ever won the Derby without having a start as a two-year old. He is also still running very greenly.

Showing Up's fifth last year (really sixth with the dead heat of Brother Derek and Jazil) was super impressive off of so few lifetime starts.
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:50 PM
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I don't like it at all with just three lifetime starts. I don't believe a horse has ever won the Derby without having a start as a two-year old. He is also still running very greenly.

Showing Up's fifth last year (really sixth with the dead heat of Brother Derek and Jazil) was super impressive off of so few lifetime starts.
I am sure everyone would agree that going 10f in a G1 against 19 other horses is not exactly the ideal spot for a colt's 4th lifetime start. But if (and that is still a big if) he handles 9f and looks solid in his next....I certainly couldn't blame them for taking a shot.
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I said it when he broke his maiden, and I will say it again...this is one of the best horses that I have seen. I don't know if this information is out yet, but he was a $57,000 yearling that was sold to Padua and Stonerside for $3.5 million. Nice profit. I hope they go the Preakness route with this horse instead of the Derby route, but I know that this most likely won't happen. He is very rushed to make it to the Derby. If they back off this horse, and give him a little more time, he could turn into the absolute monster that I believe him to be. Nice, nice, nice colt....
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:23 PM
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No, not Bernardini 2, as this horse's career will most likely be extremely short

Also, I won't hype Curlin anymore...I've said all that I want to say about him...

*back to lurking*
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:24 PM
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No, not Bernardini 2, as this horse's career will most likely be extremely short

Also, I won't hype Curlin anymore...I've said all that I want to say about him...

*back to lurking*
Bernardini had a long career?


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Old 03-17-2007, 11:24 PM
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It just keeps getting better.
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:31 PM
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What happened? I step out for an hour and come back to find that the green beer is really flowing around here tonight.
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Old 03-18-2007, 03:04 PM
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Bernardini had a long career?


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No, Bernardini didn't have a long year, but he did finish out the year. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Derby was Curlin's last start...

That's the difference between short and "extremely" short...
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Old 03-18-2007, 03:21 PM
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No, Bernardini didn't have a long year, but he did finish out the year. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Derby was Curlin's last start...

That's the difference between short and "extremely" short...
Well if you knew anything about sequels they usually aren't better than the original. But of course you know that, your highness.

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Old 03-17-2007, 10:53 PM
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Well it was Padua and Stonestreet that bought into him, original owners still own a piece. And they bought into him to run in the Derby, Stonestreet especially with Tiz Wonderful being injured. He runs well in the Ark. Derby, he'll be there.

Sorry, I meant Stonerstreet, not Stonerside...Thanks for the correction.
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:57 PM
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Still not right. I'm being sh*tty I know.
Yes, you are, but my spelling IS way off tonight...lol.
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:59 PM
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Still not right. I'm being sh*tty I know.

No you're not. You aren't the one who needed to lecture us on his history...and then got it wrong.

I heard 80% of him was sold for $2.4 million.....but I wasn't sure...so I didn't post it. I'm funny that way.
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:02 PM
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No you're not. You aren't the one who needed to lecture us on his history...and then got it wrong.

I heard 80% of him was sold for $2.4 million.....but I wasn't sure...so I didn't post it. I'm funny that way.
Well, the number that I heard was 3.5 million...
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:05 PM
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who else is pointing to the arkansas derby?
i have to belive that his next race would be the time to bet against him coming off of 2 huge efforts like this, he could be a bit vunerable next time out going 1 1/8
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Old 03-17-2007, 10:54 PM
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I dont want to sound like Randall (sorry Randall) but I believe that Curlin will have an awfully short career. Enjoy him now.
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I dont want to sound like Randall (sorry Randall) but I believe that Curlin will have an awfully short career. Enjoy him now.
Of course he will. He looks talented. We can't have talented horses running around for a long time. What would that do to the sport?
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