Lava Man to Dubai

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Right....but Lava Man isn't.

depends on how you look at it! i look at it as a good shipper doesn't get ill, lose a beat, etc. a bad shipper is one who is laid up for months after. some tho might think a good shipper is one who wins his race--but then he might be laid up for months after....so he's not really a good shipper.

lava man ships great-he just doesn't pay his travelling expenses til he gets back home!!

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

depends on how you look at it! i look at it as a good shipper doesn't get ill, lose a beat, etc. a bad shipper is one who is laid up for months after. some tho might think a good shipper is one who wins his race--but then he might be laid up for months after....so he's not really a good shipper.

lava man ships great-he just doesn't pay his travelling expenses til he gets back home!!

It's not the trip, it's the BUTE . He can't run without BUTE. Thats why he can't win outside of Cal. The soft competition in Cal doesn't hurt either. But it's not his fault no one from the east goes out to face him. Surf Cat will stomp him into a dirt hole if he can stay together long enough to face him.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

It's not the trip, it's the BUTE . He can't run without BUTE. Thats why he can't win outside of Cal. The soft competition in Cal doesn't hurt either. But it's not his fault no one from the east goes out to face him. Surf Cat will stomp him into a dirt hole if he can stay together long enough to face him.

i wish i had a dollar for every time someone claimed it was the bute. bute isn't limited to cali. of course that's been posted on here fairly often when the accusation is made. but some still cling to their urban myths i suppose.

[Danzig]

bute: Short for phenylbutazone, a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory medication that is legal in most racing jurisdictions. Often known by the trade names Butazolidin and Butazone

that definition came from nyra.

[SOREHOOF]

I knew that would get a rise. Cal seems to be the only major league jurisdiction that allows it. I know it's not exactly hard drugs, more like aspirin, but he seems to be able to ship all over Cal and do well. Maybe he is just overmatched outside of Cal. I hope he wins in Dubai. Premium Tap has a shot in his race and he runs drug free.

[Danzig]

i like premium tap, and am sorry to see him sold out of country. but i'll be pulling for invasor.

as for lava man, i'll be pulling for him. at least with horses like him and invasor you can root for them to win without worrying that they'll be retired as soon as possible. you get behind horses only to see them sent off to the farm. it's odd, we all want to see some really good horses, and gear up for the ky derby, knowing the eventual winner is too soon going to be off the scene.

[SOREHOOF]

You said It !

Originally Posted by Danzig188

bute: Short for phenylbutazone, a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory medication that is legal in most racing jurisdictions. Often known by the trade names Butazolidin and Butazone

that definition came from nyra.

The problem is that some people look at the PP's and do not see a "B" beside the "L" and think that Bute was absent. Certain state's requirements do not require the reporting of Bute so it is absent from the PP's. Kentucky is an example. Lava Man ran under the same bute rules in CA and in KY for the Breeders' Cup..it can be administered no later than 24 hours before post time of the race. The dosage is the same, as well, I believe.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by FairPlay

The problem is that some people look at the PP's and do not see a "B" beside the "L" and think that Bute was absent. Certain state's requirements do not require the reporting of Bute so it is absent from the PP's. Kentucky is an example. Lava Man ran under the same bute rules in CA and in KY for the Breeders' Cup..it can be administered no later than 24 hours before post time of the race. The dosage is the same, as well, I believe.

Thanks. I thought it had to be listed. I had read that KY was loose with it's drug regs. That probably saved me from using him in the tri, used Sun King and lost anyway.

[2Hot4TV]

Lava Man to leave tuesday morning to Dubai. Some people just don't get it. Hell I would be happy to own a winner that can run at Santa Anita.