Flower Alley

Originally Posted by oracle80

WE Nyers tend to treat trash like trash. And Fugitte deserves respect because????? Refresh my memory please?

Never said that he deserved respect, but Pletcher was way out of line there...I'm sure he was probably having a bad morning or something, but to turn to a VP at the track you are on and shout "F U" in front of several of racing fans out for Dawn at the Downs was not cool, classy or acceptable - even for a ragged NYer (he's a Dallas boy anyway so don't try to claim)..

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Never said that he deserved respect, but Pletcher was way out of line there...I'm sure he was probably having a bad morning or something, but to turn to a VP at the track you are on and shout "F U" in front of several of racing fans out for Dawn at the Downs was not cool, classy or acceptable - even for a ragged NYer (he's a Dallas boy anyway so don't try to claim)..

When I see him up here I will mention it to him. Its low Joel, and you should know better. And you DO know what I am talking about.

Originally Posted by oracle80

When I see him up here I will mention it to him. Its low Joel, and you should know better. And you DO know what I am talking about.

I'm not Pletcher, but if some guy came up to me talking about some post on a chat site I would laugh at him. Don't make yourself look stupid over something like this.

Originally Posted by boldruler

I'm not Pletcher, but if some guy came up to me talking about some post on a chat site I would laugh at him. Don't make yourself look stupid over something like this.

Hes not "just a guy" hes someone who claims to be in the business and even chats on a radio show, hey what comes around goes around.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Hes not "just a guy" hes someone who claims to be in the business and even chats on a radio show, hey what comes around goes around.

Ok. I am not a huge Pletcher fan because of something that might have happened this year to get one of his horses into the derby, but the fact is it probably wasn't him or his people anyway. One thing about Pletcher, he is the best in the business. Guy knows how to find races for his horses.

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Originally Posted by boldruler

Ok. I am not a huge Pletcher fan because of something that might have happened this year to get one of his horses into the derby, but the fact is it probably wasn't him or his people anyway. One thing about Pletcher, he is the best in the business. Guy knows how to find races for his horses.

careful with your 'mights and maybes' conspiracy theories those are the kind of things that really piss people off...

Originally Posted by paisjpq

careful with your 'mights and maybes' conspiracy theories those are the kind of things that really piss people off...

Notice I didn't say anything specifically. Quite different than using a specific name of a horse and talking about injuries or drug use or whatever. Rumors make the business go as long as nobody states them as fact.

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Mike you are 100% correct. As you know I worked in the Auto Racing industry for a couple years. I was witness to some things that I will never repeat in a public forum, guys that are on TV every Sunday now making a great living racing in Nextel Cup. The bottom line is this Joel, if I may offer this suggestion -

You obviously work in this business, and the point I am going to make is doubly important for you because apparently you write and need to get quotes, etc from people in the business. If Todd Pletcher by chance read what you wrote on this board, what do you think will go thru his head? My guess is this - the next time he sees you, the next time you need a quote or interview from him, he just might tell you the same thing he told the VP.

Joel again this coming from someone who made a similar mistake in 1998. I was in the pits at a track telling a story about what happened the previous night with an announcer and 3 Miller Light Girls to one of my buddies. Word spread and I almost lost my job.

Look Oracle...I am not breaking news about him curcing Steve in private..I wouldn't do that...this was in front of SEVERAL race fans....you can't pretend that it didn't happen.....if he were in the NBA he would have been fined by the league because you just have a greater responsibilty to display class and tact in front of the customers...

Fugitte was trying to enhance the experience for a few fans when he asked Todd that Q and got that response...i was sitting right there...it can't be denied or ignored just because he is Todd pletcher....I'm sure he was having a bad day and he just slipped up...it happens and I don't dislike Todd one bit, but from an administrative standpoint - you want more of the star players in your league being like Peytun Manning and not Terrell Owens if you know what I mean )and no, I'm NOT comparing him to TO..just saying)...

The fact remains that he has a great responsibility as a top trainer and face in our game, and when he does ANYTHING negative it poorly represents more than himself...

I think hes a great trianer and probably a great guy and if you tell him and he hates me for it then that is fine...I don't dislike the guy...i just call things as I see them and it was no huge secret because it was embarrassing to the fans that heard his comments that day...that doesn't mean he's a mass murderer...the sitaution is what it is....you are the only one on this thread that appears to take exception to my post - but thats not surprising to me...you've been like that since i began posting...have a nice day