Lava Man to Dubai

[2Hot4TV]

If he ships to Dubai he will never be the same horse when he comes back to SoCal. I will be the first to say that Lava Mans connections are NUTS and Lava Man is done. You can put a fork in him as soon as he ships.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

i would go to churchill for the turf race there, he might run big on turf out of cali, and if he does then you can ship all over the country for big turf races... there are so many big grade 1 turf races with big purses, i dont see why there going to dubai with this guy

[Scurlogue Champ]

This purse is more than big I believe.

$5,000,000.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

i realize that, but that trip to dubai ruins horses, and at this point they dont even know if he will ship. they can stay here, and if he ships well for the turf they can run in the woodford reserve, the manhatan, arlington million, united nations, and im sure there are a bunch out there in cali, there are also a few big one's at belmont in the fall

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i realize that, but that trip to dubai ruins horses, and at this point they dont even know if he will ship. they can stay here, and if he ships well for the turf they can run in the woodford reserve, the manhatan, arlington million, united nations, and im sure there are a bunch out there in cali, there are also a few big one's at belmont in the fall

If he went to any of the races you have mentioned,he would get his ASS KICKED!!! Just like what will happen in Dubai

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

If he went to any of the races you have mentioned,he would get his ASS KICKED!!! Just like what will happen in Dubai

This is probably closer to the truth....

He will most likely get stroked in Dubai.

But I thought The Tin Man would get raped last year as well, and he got a good second.

[PPerfectfan]

Originally Posted by moodwalker

This is probably closer to the truth....

He will most likely get stroked in Dubai.

But I thought The Tin Man would get raped last year as well, and he got a good second.

Umm while I am just a tad prejudiced, Tin got a great second. Had to set all the pace because of a poor post and ran his guts out to barely get beat by a very nice horse. I am beyond shocked that they would ship Lava Man....must less to Dubai. With all of the races he could win here I am amazed.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

If he went to any of the races you have mentioned,he would get his ASS KICKED!!! Just like what will happen in Dubai

wowowow i never said i like him, i did not say he would win those races i just think it's a better idea for the horse. i think showing up would run him off the track on the turf, anywhere in cali or anywhere i also think the tin man and english channel are alot better on turf along with a few others

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i realize that, but that trip to dubai ruins horses, and at this point they dont even know if he will ship. they can stay here, and if he ships well for the turf they can run in the woodford reserve, the manhatan, arlington million, united nations, and im sure there are a bunch out there in cali, there are also a few big one's at belmont in the fall

Dubai is a bad idea, but this campaign would not make much sense either. He does not like going to Louisville or New York. I think he would fail there on the turf as much as he failed there on the dirt. The point is, this horse is so effective in SoCal, that it makes no sense to send him anywhere else, after he has proven repeatedly that he can't do it.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

i realize that, but that trip to dubai ruins horses, and at this point they dont even know if he will ship. they can stay here, and if he ships well for the turf they can run in the woodford reserve, the manhatan, arlington million, united nations, and im sure there are a bunch out there in cali, there are also a few big one's at belmont in the fall

it does not ruin horses. look at the year invasor had after dubai! i think they only take so much time off for blueblood horses, give them plenty of time to get over their trip. his campaign last year was definitive proof that shipping to dubai doesn't mean a lost season.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

it does not ruin horses. look at the year invasor had after dubai! i think they only take so much time off for blueblood horses, give them plenty of time to get over their trip. his campaign last year was definitive proof that shipping to dubai doesn't mean a lost season.

ok it ruins SOME HORSES, its a risk that i dont think anyone should take, the only reasson they go there is for the $ campaign your horse over here and point to the breeders cup, it might not be a lost seasson IF he ships ok, but its definitly a lost 3-4 months.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

ok it ruins SOME HORSES, its a risk that i dont think anyone should take, the only reasson they go there is for the $ campaign your horse over here and point to the breeders cup, it might not be a lost seasson IF he ships ok, but its definitly a lost 3-4 months.

some horses can ship, some can't. but to not ship any because some don't like it imo is silly. some horses can't run in the slop, should they cancel all racing over an off-track?
i don't think it ruins the horses. i think some just need more time to recover then others. if your horse is a good shipper, what the heck-go for it. if he's not, then don't.
and a lot of horses don't miss much time, i think 3-4 months is the exception, not the rule.