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Old 03-11-2007, 04:56 PM
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He's not finished. Saw him the other day and he looked awesome. He's started working really well. We'll get a good indication next weekend of how "finished" he is.
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:57 PM
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He's not finished. Saw him the other day and he looked awesome. He's started working really well. We'll get a good indication next weekend of how "finished" he is.
La La La. He may win that race, at least he should. But 2 preps? Why? B/c he's ouchy. same reason he needed wraps in his 4th start of his career.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:01 PM
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La La La. He may win that race, at least he should. But 2 preps? Why? B/c he's ouchy. same reason he needed wraps in his 4th start of his career.
Well if he does win that race....then how exactly is he "finished"? Isn't it weird to say a horse is "finished" and then say that he should win a graded stakes race next weekend?
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:02 PM
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Well if he does win that race....then how exactly is he "finished"? Isn't it weird to say a horse is "finished" and then say that he should win a graded stakes race next weekend?
Read the thread I just bumped.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:03 PM
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La La La. He may win that race, at least he should. But 2 preps? Why? B/c he's ouchy. same reason he needed wraps in his 4th start of his career.

By the way, this is embarrassing double talk. It isn't even clear he is the favorite next week.

If you're going to take a stand in this game, which you mystifyingly seem to be at least attempting to do here, then DO IT. Don't hedge.

Be a man!
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:04 PM
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By the way, this is embarrassing double talk. It isn't even clear he is the favorite next week.

If you're going to take a stand in this game, which you mystifyingly seem to be at least attempting to do here, then DO IT. Don't hedge.

Be a man!
You don't think he'll be the fave! Haha...Hey guess what, I took at stand in November. So this isn't new...
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:07 PM
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You don't think he'll be the fave! Haha...Hey guess what, I took at stand in November. So this isn't new...

You're not taking a stand.....you're already hedging. Either he's through or he isn't. Take a position. As of now you are attempting to cover all your bases.

Any Given Sunday, with a race over the track, may very well be the favorite.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:07 PM
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Anyone else thinking Street Sense goes in that allowance on Thursday?
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:08 PM
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You know what. Look at the study done by horses who run negatives early in their 3 yr old season and when they run them again. He ran a huge negative as a two year old----you don't think the fact that he hasn't raced yet is an issue?
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:09 PM
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Anyone else thinking Street Sense goes in that allowance on Thursday?


I hear if he does...Randall thinks he's a cinch.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:09 PM
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Anyone else thinking Street Sense goes in that allowance on Thursday?
If he does that tells you all you need to know.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:13 PM
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The good news for Street Sense is he earned his speed figure while getting a perfect trip on a gold rail...thus his number should be adjusted upwards....and out of negative territory.

What a relief.


If he had only run last in the Juvie....he'd be a living cinch in the Derby.

Now, if you don't mind I'm going to return to sane conversation....with my imaginary rabbit.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:13 PM
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Andy, the red headed step child of the board. Did I say he will win on Sat, he could. But if he wins with an 85 Beyer, what would you think? That's a positive? Gimme a break here.

Here is what I stand by: --that he won't be in the Derby
That he won't run a negative the rest of his 3 yr old season
That he won't win a Grade 1 the rest of his career

That good enough for you....Make some calls of your own here before you knock people who actually do take a stand.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:13 PM
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If he does that tells you all you need to know.
That he already has graded earnings and they'd rather bring him back in an easy spot at 7 furlongs?
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:14 PM
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If he does that tells you all you need to know.

The hedging continues.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:06 PM
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By the way, this is embarrassing double talk. It isn't even clear he is the favorite next week.

If you're going to take a stand in this game, which you mystifyingly seem to be at least attempting to do here, then DO IT. Don't hedge.

Be a man!
Apparently when someone says a horse is "finished" they don't mean "finished winning graded stakes races."
It is a bit confusing.
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Old 03-11-2007, 06:13 PM
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Apparently when someone says a horse is "finished" they don't mean "finished winning graded stakes races."
It is a bit confusing.
Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I respect people taking a stand. I think most of us do -- regardless of the outcome. The after dinner speakers and bashers aside of course.

If the horse is done, I think that's pretty clear. Unless someone wants to predict that he wins next weekend and is retired after the race, LOL.

Eric
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:58 PM
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La La La. He may win that race, at least he should. But 2 preps? Why? B/c he's ouchy. same reason he needed wraps in his 4th start of his career.
He's not likely to win this upcoming weekend. If he's beaten a couple a lengths and closes well, then it'll be a good race for him. The connections aren't trying to win this race, Any Given Saturday is the most likely winner. I thought thoses ouchy works the past couple of weeks were impressive. Maybe the connections wanted to make sure the horse was ready to take on the rigors of the triple crown so they gave him plenty of time for his 3yo debut versus running him in the holy bull or fountain of youth and finding out that he's suffered an injury.
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:00 AM
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(I wrote a response here before reading the rest of the thread. What I'd written had been well-covered by other posters, so I deleted it.)

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Old 03-12-2007, 11:56 AM
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(I wrote a response here before reading the rest of the thread. What I'd written had been well-covered by other posters, so I deleted it.)

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still would have liked to have read your take on it. It's not like we never have redundancy around here.
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