Proof of BC "Golden Rail"?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

As I said in November he will never be the same again. He isn't in the gate on Derby day either.

based on what?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

based on what?

Search my Street Sense article from November...All the goodies are inside.

[KY_Sasquash]

He's not finished. Saw him the other day and he looked awesome. He's started working really well. We'll get a good indication next weekend of how "finished" he is.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by KY_Sasquash

He's not finished. Saw him the other day and he looked awesome. He's started working really well. We'll get a good indication next weekend of how "finished" he is.

La La La. He may win that race, at least he should. But 2 preps? Why? B/c he's ouchy. same reason he needed wraps in his 4th start of his career.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

La La La. He may win that race, at least he should. But 2 preps? Why? B/c he's ouchy. same reason he needed wraps in his 4th start of his career.

Well if he does win that race....then how exactly is he "finished"? Isn't it weird to say a horse is "finished" and then say that he should win a graded stakes race next weekend?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Well if he does win that race....then how exactly is he "finished"? Isn't it weird to say a horse is "finished" and then say that he should win a graded stakes race next weekend?

Read the thread I just bumped.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

La La La. He may win that race, at least he should. But 2 preps? Why? B/c he's ouchy. same reason he needed wraps in his 4th start of his career.

By the way, this is embarrassing double talk. It isn't even clear he is the favorite next week.

If you're going to take a stand in this game, which you mystifyingly seem to be at least attempting to do here, then DO IT. Don't hedge.

Be a man!

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

By the way, this is embarrassing double talk. It isn't even clear he is the favorite next week.

If you're going to take a stand in this game, which you mystifyingly seem to be at least attempting to do here, then DO IT. Don't hedge.

Be a man!

You don't think he'll be the fave! Haha...Hey guess what, I took at stand in November. So this isn't new...

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

You don't think he'll be the fave! Haha...Hey guess what, I took at stand in November. So this isn't new...

You're not taking a stand.....you're already hedging. Either he's through or he isn't. Take a position. As of now you are attempting to cover all your bases.

Any Given Sunday, with a race over the track, may very well be the favorite.

[SniperSB23]

Anyone else thinking Street Sense goes in that allowance on Thursday?

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

By the way, this is embarrassing double talk. It isn't even clear he is the favorite next week.

If you're going to take a stand in this game, which you mystifyingly seem to be at least attempting to do here, then DO IT. Don't hedge.

Be a man!

Apparently when someone says a horse is "finished" they don't mean "finished winning graded stakes races."
It is a bit confusing.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Apparently when someone says a horse is "finished" they don't mean "finished winning graded stakes races."
It is a bit confusing.

Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I respect people taking a stand. I think most of us do -- regardless of the outcome. The after dinner speakers and bashers aside of course.

If the horse is done, I think that's pretty clear. Unless someone wants to predict that he wins next weekend and is retired after the race, LOL.

Eric

[KY_Sasquash]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

La La La. He may win that race, at least he should. But 2 preps? Why? B/c he's ouchy. same reason he needed wraps in his 4th start of his career.

He's not likely to win this upcoming weekend. If he's beaten a couple a lengths and closes well, then it'll be a good race for him. The connections aren't trying to win this race, Any Given Saturday is the most likely winner. I thought thoses ouchy works the past couple of weeks were impressive. Maybe the connections wanted to make sure the horse was ready to take on the rigors of the triple crown so they gave him plenty of time for his 3yo debut versus running him in the holy bull or fountain of youth and finding out that he's suffered an injury.

[Dunbar]

(I wrote a response here before reading the rest of the thread. What I'd written had been well-covered by other posters, so I deleted it.)

--Dunbar

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

(I wrote a response here before reading the rest of the thread. What I'd written had been well-covered by other posters, so I deleted it.)

--Dunbar

still would have liked to have read your take on it. It's not like we never have redundancy around here.

[zippyneedsawin]

I'd be surprised if the top five finishers of last year's Juvy are all in the starting gate come the first saturday in may. Sadly, Injuries always creep up.

[blackthroatedwind]

The idea is to bet against mediocre horses that get reputations that are undeserved. Street Sense, while aided by the dynamics of the race as well as the bias, is not one of these horses.

Look, even if he was the likeliest winner of the Derby at this point, he still is no better than 20-1 in reality. Hell, even sound he probably isn't 60% to make the Derby. However, the idea that he won't make the Derby because he ran too fast in early November is beyond ridiculous.

Street Sense is a very good horse. We don't have a lot of these in actuality anymore. It's possible he may be capable of running more than one or two good races. Ya know, horses used to be able to do this.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The idea is to bet against mediocre horses that get reputations that are undeserved. Street Sense, while aided by the dynamics of the race as well as the bias, is not one of these horses.

Look, even if he was the likeliest winner of the Derby at this point, he still is no better than 20-1 in reality. Hell, even sound he probably isn't 60% to make the Derby. However, the idea that he won't make the Derby because he ran too fast in early November is beyond ridiculous.

Street Sense is a very good horse. We don't have a lot of these in actuality anymore. It's possible he may be capable of running more than one or two good races. Ya know, horses used to be able to do this.

You don't use Thoros so you have a different view. If you did, you'd likely agree.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

You don't use Thoros so you have a different view. If you did, you'd likely agree.

I use them and I don't agree with you at all.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

You don't use Thoros so you have a different view. If you did, you'd likely agree.

I use thoro numbers, but don't think you can project how a horse will perform six months in the future by looking at a number today.