Question, Seriously

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

On paper, CQ is a single, but I just couldn't single him either. But looking at the final payout, it was excellent considering it was really a Pick 3 with Master Commander leading it off and two morning line 2nd choices in between.

how was he a single on paper ? doug oneil has been almost as hot as pletcher and his horse had alot of tactical speed, i liked him more then cq, the local horse, the # 2 got pounded the whole way in the betting i liked him better then cq, and i also liked the other pletcher horse better then cq, i know he won, but even after the fact i dont see how he was a single

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

with the tear t pleach is on and the top jock in the country and the compitition..he was a single imo

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

how was he a single on paper ? doug oneil has been almost as hot as pletcher and his horse had alot of tactical speed, i liked him more then cq, the local horse, the # 2 got pounded the whole way in the betting i liked him better then cq, and i also liked the other pletcher horse better then cq, i know he won, but even after the fact i dont see how he was a single

He was by far the most accomplished, but as I said, I couldn't single him either.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

my ticket was.,.7 with 3/7/8/11 with 1/7 with 1..dumb luck i guess but ill take it

[hockey2315]

I definitely don't think CQ was a strong single. . . Still wouldn't if I could do it over again. . . But I still can't believe I didn't include the O'Neill filly. . . My east-coast bias clouds my judgment way too much sometimes. . .

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

my ticket was.,.7 with 3/7/8/11 with 1/7 with 1..dumb luck i guess but ill take it

my ticket was ...7/3,5,9,11/1,4/2,5... i was alive to the cq race and did not use him at all, dumb play i guess, but i really did not like him

[blackthroatedwind]

I'm not at all suprised Circular Quay won but I have no idea how he could have been considered a single. You make MUCH more money over time playing against horses like him than on them. I used him defensively ( and blew up with Get Ready Bertie ) but hardly considered him a single. Truth be told he was a bit of a sucker horse, bet heavily because of his connections, and not his pps.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

agreed but..take into account the lack of field and the fact some of these gave there all last out..he didnt have to do much but stay out of trouble and time it right..imo

[blackthroatedwind]

He was pretty impressive. Not sure what to make of him at this point.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'm not at all suprised Circular Quay won but I have no idea how he could have been considered a single. You make MUCH more money over time playing against horses like him than on them. I used him defensively ( and blew up with Get Ready Bertie ) but hardly considered him a single. Truth be told he was a bit of a sucker horse, bet heavily because of his connections, and not his pps.

The screws seem to be tightened up very snug on these Pletcher 3 year olds right now.I just wonder if they are gunna be over the top come the big day.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

The screws seem to be tightened up very snug on these Pletcher 3 year olds right now.I just wonder if they are gunna be over the top come the big day.

If they are genuinely good horses, and I am in no way implying they are not, they should improve. Good horses hold their form. Surely after today's performance by Einstein the bounce adherants learned something.

Good horses don't bounce ( and I don't think mediocre ones do either ).

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

He was by far the most accomplished, but as I said, I couldn't single him either.

he is accomplished, but up to today everything that he accomplished was at 7f or shorter and in the hopeful at the spa he got a dream setup, those are some of the reassons why i dident even put him on my ticket today

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

he is accomplished, but up to today everything that he accomplished was at 7f or shorter and in the hopeful at the spa he got a dream setup, those are some of the reassons why i dident even put him on my ticket today

Obviously a big mistake. I understand trying to beat him, and also thought several others in the race that had a chance. But, I guess I don't necessarily equate accomplish with wins. CQ did finish 2nd in two other races last year, and those aren't bad accomplishments either.

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

While CQ was the most accomplished on paper I don't think he was a single. He had definite doubts about 2 turns which I guess are no more. I actually didn't like Notional at all and thought Zanjero had a big chance to upset but he was no match. Ketchikan seems like he might be one that makes some noise in upciming stakes. But no, I don't think CQ would have been a good single. Were you going to use Mistical Plan?

No I was not

I used BTW's ABC logic and Mistical Plan was a B and I tossed