the worst jockeys ever

[pmayjr]

I'm not sure he belongs on this list-

But in regularly playing Tampa this winter, I have something going for me called the "Cotto curse". That dude is winning at a decent percentage, but every horse he rides that I bet come s in last in a trouble'd ride. Where's my boy Derek Bell when I need him lol?

[ArlJim78]

scav's must be working diligently today or else we would see several paragraphs here dedicated to how bad Laviolette is. stay tuned...

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

scav's must be working diligently today or else we would see several paragraphs here dedicated to how bad Laviolette is. stay tuned...

LOL, I knew it, I wanted to read the whole thread to see if my guy was mentioned. HOW can you not LOVE Uriel. I actually think he is half way decent in certain situations, but you are right about him getting dragged into the winner circle, his wins are usually by open lengths. Now for the list...oh how I love this...

Sunny Ho
Taylor Hole
Liz Morris
BEVERLY ****ING BURRESS
Todd James Dupuis
Jose Espinoza
Jessica Enders
CASEY FUSILIER
ARIEL SMITH
Sidney Lejune jr.
Rajiv Maragh
Nick Meza
Isael Campo
Jesse Lantz
Mike Smith
Chantel Sutherland

LAST but not least, none other then Shane Laviolette....

There are many more but I am sick of typing about this, I won't be able to go to sleep about all the aggression towards these people.

[MaTH716]

Also honorable mention for Mick Kinane and the wonderful job he did on Rock of Gibraltar in the 2002 Breeders Cup. (so much for the single on the Pick 6).

Don't know if they're the worst jockeys ever, but the worst high profile rides I've ever seen:

1) Kent Desormeaux on Real Quiet in the 1998 Belmont. I don't care what any one else says, had he waited about 3-5 more seconds to make his move, we'd have a living Triple Crown winner right now.

2) Jeremy Rose on Afleet Alex in the 2005 Kentucky Derby. The rail was dead all day and he puts Afleet Alex into a speed duel on the rail and manages to essentially lose the Triple Crown by one length. Shameful ride that doesn't get much play on these boards.

3) Ronnie Franklin on Bid in the 1979 Belmont Stakes: I cut him some slack if there really was a foot problem, but he was on Spectacular Bid. Get on his back and stay out of his way. He could've run his own race and won.

4) Stewie Elliott on Smarty Jones in the 2004 Belmont Stakes: He had the best horse in the race and ran him into the ground early. Foolish.

5) Kinane on Rock of Gibraltar in the BC Turf. Somebody has already addressed it. Rock was probably the best, most electrifying, and most talented horse in the world and somehow Kinane screwed it up.

[cakes44]

I missed the "speed duel on the rail" by Jeremy Rose in the Derby. Afleet Alex had a decent trip for a 20 horse field in my opinion.

Originally Posted by cakes44

I missed the "speed duel on the rail" by Jeremy Rose in the Derby. Afleet Alex had a decent trip for a 20 horse field in my opinion.

Let me rephrase..ran too close to a ridiculously hot pace.

[Revidere]

Originally Posted by cakes44

I missed the "speed duel on the rail" by Jeremy Rose in the Derby. Afleet Alex had a decent trip for a 20 horse field in my opinion.

Agreed. I may be in the minority, but I thought Rose's ride in the Derby was terrific. And that's from someone who had a Giacomo Afleet Alex exacta.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by FairPlay

Don't know if they're the worst jockeys ever, but the worst high profile rides I've ever seen:

1) Kent Desormeaux on Real Quiet in the 1998 Belmont. I don't care what any one else says, had he waited about 3-5 more seconds to make his move, we'd have a living Triple Crown winner right now.

2) Jeremy Rose on Afleet Alex in the 2005 Kentucky Derby. The rail was dead all day and he puts Afleet Alex into a speed duel on the rail and manages to essentially lose the Triple Crown by one length. Shameful ride that doesn't get much play on these boards.

3) Ronnie Franklin on Bid in the 1979 Belmont Stakes: I cut him some slack if there really was a foot problem, but he was on Spectacular Bid. Get on his back and stay out of his way. He could've run his own race and won.

4) Stewie Elliott on Smarty Jones in the 2004 Belmont Stakes: He had the best horse in the race and ran him into the ground early. Foolish.

5) Kinane on Rock of Gibraltar in the BC Turf. Somebody has already addressed it. Rock was probably the best, most electrifying, and most talented horse in the world and somehow Kinane screwed it up.

I can't wait to get home and address this...I have no idea about #3 but 1,2,4,5 couldn't be farther from the truth IMO

[Revidere]

Originally Posted by Scav

I can't wait to get home and address this...I have no idea about #3 but 1,2,4,5 couldn't be farther from the truth IMO

I was thinking the same thing. In no particular order-

I thought Rose rode a terrific race. Stayed out of trouble, came out in the drive and just missed.

I'm not a Desormeux fan at all, but had no issue with his Belmont ride. Horse had a 5 length lead with an 1/8 of a mile to go.

Didn't Kinane have to alter course in that race with the breakdown of Landseer?

How many horses took a run at Smarty Jones? Purge? Rock Hard Ten? Eddington? How many of those horses ever showed speed before?

[avance2000]

Originally Posted by FairPlay

Stewie Elliott on Smarty Jones in the 2004 Belmont Stakes: He had the best horse in the race and ran him into the ground early. Foolish.

you know riding a horse is not exactly like riding a motorcycle. elliot did not "run him into the ground." the horse would not settle and ran himself into the ground.

[MaTH716]

The fact that Rose did not fall of Alex in the Preakness is good enough reason for me for him NOT to make this list. Also didn't Bailey fry Eddington on the lead of the Belmont that year, and Smarty ended up chasing him. I think Bailey caught some heat from Henning for that ride. From what I remember Eddington was a closer. I guess Bailey went out to try to prevent Smarty from winning, than giving his mount a proper ride.