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Old 03-05-2007, 04:57 PM
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Hummm, I would say it qualifies as an analogy but understand that you are comparing a personalized event with one of much larger scope...domestic violence almost always centers around control and the need to possess another person, there isn't a specific belief involved. Bush et al believe they are "right" and they have ultimate (as much as the Constitution allows anyway) power, an abusive spouse is seeking that control, that domination, that "ownership" if you will....different dynamics I think. Abuse comes from a bastardization of love while the actions of Bush could best be described as a bastardization of power...I agree the analogy is defensible but I would question whether it defines what has happened.
Thanks Somer,
I look at the actions rather than the motivations. You raise some interesting commonalities, control, power preservation (domination), breakdown of belief structures to remain "right".
There remain some that "love" Bush, and refuse to see his "bastardization of power".
Thanks for your insight. There just might be more similarities than I had previously seen.
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:15 PM
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Back to Ann...
The Dems are appalled.
The Repubs are running away from her comments.
Now...the Conservatives weigh in...
http://www.kxmb.com/getARticle.asp?ArticleId=101563

Good bye Ann!

On a side note, if the peace makers are "blessed", where does that leave the war makers?
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:27 PM
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Back to Ann...
The Dems are appalled.
The Repubs are running away from her comments.
Now...the Conservatives weigh in...
http://www.kxmb.com/getARticle.asp?ArticleId=101563

Good bye Ann!

On a side note, if the peace makers are "blessed", where does that leave the war makers?


This is justice, her remarks should have consequences! Regarding your last sentence...don't try and simplify things that much...remember Ecclesiastes 3.
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Old 03-05-2007, 08:37 PM
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Someone at school told be she needed a good beehatch slap.

I think I understand what they meant now.
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Old 03-05-2007, 09:22 PM
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Someone at school told be she needed a good beehatch slap.

I think I understand what they meant now.
Yeah...right after they kick Mahr in the nuts for his comments about Cheney!

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Old 03-05-2007, 10:15 PM
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leave out al franken?....funny, the thread was started to attack an attacker--but when another is named, now let's not go in that direction?! whatever...

calling someone a ****** for instance is completely unnecessary, and certainly does nothing to further dialogue. i can't stand ann coulter, and i really wish they would not give her air time. it's a shame that those with legitimate viewpoints aren't allowed on air, only those who are far right or far left....
and yes, bill mahr is disgusting. to call for the death of an american, just because his thoughts don't jibe with ones own, is despicable.
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Old 03-06-2007, 11:47 AM
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leave out al franken?....funny, the thread was started to attack an attacker--but when another is named, now let's not go in that direction?! whatever...

calling someone a ****** for instance is completely unnecessary, and certainly does nothing to further dialogue. i can't stand ann coulter, and i really wish they would not give her air time. it's a shame that those with legitimate viewpoints aren't allowed on air, only those who are far right or far left....
and yes, bill mahr is disgusting. to call for the death of an american, just because his thoughts don't jibe with ones own, is despicable.
Danzig, that's not at all what Maher said- it's what the right-wing media wants you to THINK he said. Here's his actual quote:

Maher: But I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn’t be dying needlessly tomorrow. (applause)

Scarborough: If someone on this panel said that they wished that Dick Cheney had been blown up, and you didn’t say…

Frank: I think he did.

Scarborough: Okay. Did you say…

Maher: No, no. I quoted that.

Frank: You don’t believe that?

Maher: I’m just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact.

Says conseravtive John Cole on balloon-juice, "Saying that X would happen if Y had happened is not the same thing as saying Y should have happened or you wished Y had happened. There is no way around that, even when you selectively quote and remove the jocular context from the program."

Here's the link to Cole's comments on the subject- good reading:

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=7944
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:57 PM
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Did you see what Maher said about Cheney? Because I was watching it live and watched it again last night and I didn't think there was anything wrong with it at all. He did not wish him dead at all. I think people are grasping for straws here.
I had absolutely no problem with what he said. What he said is the sad truth.
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