Pedigree of Great Hunter ...very very nice

[POINTGIVEN1985]

mike veitch did a pedigree profile on him, and he was very impressed with it, he gave him one of the highest scores he's ever given any horse, and he's been doing it for 15 years, so that says alot about this guys pedigree

[GPK]

His dam (Zenith) could run and run and run.

[Cajungator26]

RAN in the dam's sire line, though.

[Getaway]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

RAN in the dam's sire line, though.

Does Barbaro mean anything to you?

[POINTGIVEN1985]

this horse has one of the best distance pedigree of any horse in this crop, and he has already proven he can win at 1 1/16, which can be considered short, very talented horse

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Getaway

Does Barbaro mean anything to you?

Obviously Barbaro had the RAN curse... I was just commenting that the RAN curse is ONE angle to look at for a derby contender. I certainly did NOT toss Barbaro last year because of it. He had way too many other good things going for him.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

what is the ran curse ?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

what is the ran curse ?

The RAN curse is when a horse has Raise A Native in the dam's sire line. It's ok to have RAN in the sire's sire line, but NOT the dam's. The curse was broken last year when Barbaro won the derby... it's just a dumb angle that seems to be correct most of the time (probably coincidence.)

I should also mention that this only applies to the Kentucky Derby.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

what is the ran curse ?

a horse is cursed if it ran too fast when it was young. the ran curse.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

what is the ran curse ?

Please let's not go through this again this year. It is dead after last year, and really never was on solid foundation to begin with. Now that the coincidental trend has been broken, expect several more.