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Old 03-03-2007, 10:32 PM
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I picked the wrong pony to try to beat NBLS (Drums of Tunder) but one thing I know for sure...NBLS is a ONE PACED, slow horse....he has only one gear and horses like that NEVER can get it done when the going gets tough. Tagg lost his mind thinking this horse is a super horse!!!
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Old 03-03-2007, 10:39 PM
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I think there is a little more wrong with No Biz than just being green. Hes just lugs in too much, and tried to get out a little on the turn.
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Old 03-05-2007, 12:31 PM
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Hadn't seen anyone post this, but a link to see the race is here.

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Old 03-05-2007, 01:37 PM
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Hadn't seen anyone post this, but a link to see the race is here.

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Just watched it again. Oh yeah, No Biz would have easily passed him going a 1 1/4. I have doubts about Stomello going the classic distance.
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Old 03-03-2007, 10:39 PM
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I picked the wrong pony to try to beat NBLS (Drums of Tunder) but one thing I know for sure...NBLS is a ONE PACED, slow horse....he has only one gear and horses like that NEVER can get it done when the going gets tough. Tagg lost his mind thinking this horse is a super horse!!!
I think you're right, he doesn't have a burst of speed that he can rely on, no acceleration. He just cruises along. I wanted to see something different from him this week and its just not there.

Plus he runs goofy in the stretch.
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Old 03-03-2007, 10:40 PM
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Hes an Albert the Great, whoever can sell someone an Albert the Great as a Derby winner/horse should be in prison
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Old 03-04-2007, 03:38 AM
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Yeah, you guys are all right. Tagg should give up on this horse immediately for losing that race, it's not like Tagg ever won the Derby with a horse that lost all his Derby preps as a 3 year old...oh wait, well, I guess that proves just how important it really is to win all your Derby preps.

(I have heard rumors that Nobiz is always swearing under his breath how much he hates it that Albert the Great is his father!! that's why he lugs...he's just thinking about his damn daddy holding him back!)

so in 5 lifetime starts...4 of them in stakes...a grade 1, 2 grade 2s and a grade 3, he has 3 wins....has never been out of the money and his two losses are by 3/4 of a length and 1/2 length. Yeah...a waste of time that horse.
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Old 03-04-2007, 03:53 PM
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Yeah, you guys are all right. Tagg should give up on this horse immediately for losing that race, it's not like Tagg ever won the Derby with a horse that lost all his Derby preps as a 3 year old...oh wait, well, I guess that proves just how important it really is to win all your Derby preps.

(I have heard rumors that Nobiz is always swearing under his breath how much he hates it that Albert the Great is his father!! that's why he lugs...he's just thinking about his damn daddy holding him back!)

so in 5 lifetime starts...4 of them in stakes...a grade 1, 2 grade 2s and a grade 3, he has 3 wins....has never been out of the money and his two losses are by 3/4 of a length and 1/2 length. Yeah...a waste of time that horse.
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Old 03-04-2007, 04:26 PM
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Yeah, you guys are all right. Tagg should give up on this horse immediately for losing that race, it's not like Tagg ever won the Derby with a horse that lost all his Derby preps as a 3 year old...oh wait, well, I guess that proves just how important it really is to win all your Derby preps.

(I have heard rumors that Nobiz is always swearing under his breath how much he hates it that Albert the Great is his father!! that's why he lugs...he's just thinking about his damn daddy holding him back!)

so in 5 lifetime starts...4 of them in stakes...a grade 1, 2 grade 2s and a grade 3, he has 3 wins....has never been out of the money and his two losses are by 3/4 of a length and 1/2 length. Yeah...a waste of time that horse.
I don't know who you are referring to when you say "you guys." I certainly wouldn't say this horse has no shot to be a factor in the classics this May/June. He is a talented colt and Tagg is an excellent trainer.
Other than The Bid's foolish call for prison terms, I don't see a lot of posts on this thread saying that the colt is "a waste of time." He is a solid colt who could improve. Hell I picked him to win yesterday, and I very well might pick him in his next start too.
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Old 03-04-2007, 04:44 PM
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Hes an Albert the Great, whoever can sell someone an Albert the Great as a Derby winner/horse should be in prison
LMFAO... you sound like Joel.
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:22 PM
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Hes an Albert the Great, whoever can sell someone an Albert the Great as a Derby winner/horse should be in prison
Well, Albert the Great was a G1 and a G2 winner at 10f, and he is by a Derby winner himself.
He may not exactly be A.P. Indy as a sire, but I don't see how being by Albert the Great automatically excludes you from being a Deby horse.
If Buckaroo can sire a Derby winner, isn't it possible that Albert the Great may as well?
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Old 03-04-2007, 06:25 PM
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Could all this be...POINTGIVEN1985 - REVENGE!!!
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Old 03-04-2007, 07:02 PM
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I just happened to catch a replay earlier today, and while I certainly could be wrong, it seemed to me that NoBiz started running again when he saw Scat Daddy passing him on the outside. Take a look at the last 100 yards, while it appeared he was badly beaten late stretch, he only lost by about 1/2 a length. This is just an observation, it may have been an optical illusion.
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Old 03-04-2007, 07:04 PM
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I just happened to catch a replay earlier today, and while I certainly could be wrong, it seemed to me that NoBiz started running again when he saw Scat Daddy passing him on the outside. Take a look at the last 100 yards, while it appeared he was badly beaten late stretch, he only lost by about 1/2 a length. This is just an observation, it may have been an optical illusion.
I saw the same thing while we were standing at the rail.
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:44 AM
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I just happened to catch a replay earlier today, and while I certainly could be wrong, it seemed to me that NoBiz started running again when he saw Scat Daddy passing him on the outside. Take a look at the last 100 yards, while it appeared he was badly beaten late stretch, he only lost by about 1/2 a length. This is just an observation, it may have been an optical illusion.
Its hard to tell for sure, but it looks like he may not have changed leads until deep stretch, way too late. When he did switch leads he did start to surge with the same pace as the winner. The talent is there and if he ever gets this racing thing figured out he's going to be tough. Its anybodies guess when that might happen.
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