For those that love conspiracies and weight shifts

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Why don't you just identify yourself as the closeted Ian Jory fan you undoubtably are.

[mark2061mn]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Why don't you just identify yourself as the closeted Ian Jory fan you undoubtably are.

sure thing, gato del sal (giacamo)

Some not clear situations happen that year in the races. Remember the Brass Hat appeal.

Brass Hat appeals dismissed

10:29 - 28 June 2006
The appeals of trainer William Bradley and owner Fred Bradley against the disqualification of Brass Hat from second place in the Dubai World Cup have been dismissed by the Emirates Racing Authority. Brass Hat finished second to Electrocutionist in the US$6,000,000 Group 1 Dubai World Cup on March 25 but a post race sample found traces of the drug methyl prednisolone acetate in the horse’s system. At a subsequent enquiry on May 2 and 3, ERA stewards disqualified the horse from second place and the prize-money of US1,200,000 and fined William Bradley AED20,000 (approx US$5,700). The revised placings for the Dubai World Cup are; 1st Electrocutionist 2nd Wilko 3rd Magna Graduate 4th Kane Hekili 5th Chiquitin 6th Maraahel

[Scurlogue Champ]

I'm betting on Gold For Sale

[The Bid]

Only a Moron would go over there and test positive for the biggest race of his horses life. He knew the withdrawl time, you dont cut things close when you are talking about 6 million dollars. IMO he should have been fined 100 thousand for the positive, and 100 thousand for riding Willie Martinez. Glad it was all upheld

[stonegossard]

Between the Ian Jory thing and the bullsh#t that went down with Brass Hat, any U.S. trainer is nuts to ship there. Let Godolphin have their fun over there in their make believe races. I find it amusing when they try and run one of their horses in The Kentucky Derby and flop miserably.

The whole Brass Hat story is ridiculous. The connections got screwed royally.

[Honu]

Actually dead weight is the saddle and any lead that might be in it , live weight is the jockey , there has always been a debate as to which impedes the horse more.

[mark2061mn]

Originally Posted by Honu

Actually dead weight is the saddle and any lead that might be in it , live weight is the jockey , there has always been a debate as to which impedes the horse more.

In my over 20 years of watching and/or betting races, it's become quite clear to me that jockies are nothing more than dead weight.

now, if you really want to handicap a horse with weight, i propose the following method of grading weight handicaps:

make each jockey submit themselves to some sort of high tech brain scan. the purpose of this will be to determine the actual weight of each jockey's brain.

then, when assigning weight handicaps, make it publicly known the actual weight of each jocks brain.

so, for instance, in a 6 horse handicap, the high weighted horse will have to spot the low weighted horse anywhere from 1-3 ounces.

i think this is a much more useful gauge than anything currently used!