Baffert Fined

Originally Posted by pgardn

This is very interesting study in human behavior towards others.

It gives me a clue as to who would go ripping a waitresses arm off because the food was bad. Dont leave her a tip because the food stinks mentality.

Personal experience, but obviously not that of horseownership royalty:

I was given a pass to help out at high school graduation at the Alamodome. I forgot my pass. I was walking in with the principal and other teachers and was told by security I could go no further. I immediately realized that this guy must make sure I work for the school, otherwise I might go wandering around this huge place that gets packed with 60,000 people for conventions, and plant a bomb or something else. And that his job was to keep people out who do not belong. I walked all the way back to the car and got my pass and apologized upon my re-entry.
"No he is with us BS... forget it." I'll get my pass and make things easier on everybody. A little accomidation, a little humility goes a long way. I would think business people understand this. The tracks and some trainers think otherwise.

Good story. I forgot my pass at the Indy 500 in 1997. I wanted to get in a booth that is actually run by a business partner of mine. Well the guard wouldnt let me in. I said, I understand and had to have my wife drive the pass to me.

Out of curiosity--who would go ripping a waitress and who wouldnt (in your eyes)?

[Buffymommy]

Out of curiosity--who would go ripping a waitress and who wouldnt (in your eyes)?[/quote]


Don't go opening cans of worms guys....

Originally Posted by Buffymommy

Out of curiosity--who would go ripping a waitress and who wouldnt (in your eyes)?

Don't go opening cans of worms guys....[/quote]

LOL--you are so correct.

[Scurlogue Champ]

It seems that this is just a case of feelings of entitlement versus the "right thing to do."

I'm more on Pgardn and Euro's side here. The security people are there to do a job, and I doubt that the people that outlined their job detail to them made sure to say...."Oh, by the way. If Bob Baffert or D. Wayne Lukas want something, make sure and give it to them..they are soooooo special."

It all comes down to manners to me, some people are rude and some aren't. Just the way the world works.

Originally Posted by moodwalker

It seems that this is just a case of feelings of entitlement versus the "right thing to do."

I'm more on Pgardn and Euro's side here. The security people are there to do a job, and I doubt that the people that outlined their job detail to them made sure to say...."Oh, by the way. If Bob Baffert or D. Wayne Lukas want something, make sure and give it to them..they are soooooo special."

It all comes down to manners to me, some people are rude and some aren't. Just the way the world works.

None of us saw the incident so it is hard to say what the tone was. But if Baffert wanted to get a person in, and the security guard had access to communications with his boss, it seems quite easy to just ask if he would kindly call his boss so they might get in. He probably was a bit on edge having to play the game with all the "dignitaries" and at the same time having to attend to the biggest race of the year.
And part of his job as a trainer is to suck up to people who know people with money. Client flow. Maybe he needed to be a jerk in that situation in the eyes of those around him... had to play rough. I dont know. Just glad I dont have to play silly dignitary games.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Good story. I forgot my pass at the Indy 500 in 1997. I wanted to get in a booth that is actually run by a business partner of mine. Well the guard wouldnt let me in. I said, I understand and had to have my wife drive the pass to me.

Out of curiosity--who would go ripping a waitress and who wouldnt (in your eyes)?

I think that has been made abundantly clear when you read these posts.