Did Mario Pino cause Hard Spuns loss??

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by MisterB

He was four wide on the first turn and at the half-mile pole, he was five wide.

That will take allot out of any horse.

I didn't see the trip as being that bad. To me it looked very ordinary given the post. He showed me very little in that race.

Good luck with him, you'll need it.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I didn't see the trip as being that bad. To me it looked very ordinary given the post. He showed me very little in that race.

Good luck with him, you'll need it.

It's only an observation, and a discussion, not Derby pick.

[cakes44]

Yeah he sure seemed to hate the track when he was breezing 36s and 47s on it.

[Mac88]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Yeah he sure seemed to hate the track when he was breezing 36s and 47s on it.

Are you referring to Hard Spun? If so again I agree. Dont think it had anything to do with the track. However lets be realistic. Other poster said they felt Officer Rocket would be a better proposition this Spring. I would strongly disagree

[smartyalex]

Originally Posted by jjf1031

Are you referring to Hard Spun? If so again I agree. Dont think it had anything to do with the track. However lets be realistic. Other poster said they felt Officer Rocket would be a better proposition this Spring. I would strongly disagree

Dude, How about you start a thread on how you think Hard Spun is a bigger threat than Officer Rocket! It seems to be that your the only one having a hard time following your own thread! And yes, I whole-heartedly feel that Officer Rocket will turn out to be a much better horse than the un-proven Hard Spun!

[Mac88]

Originally Posted by smartyalex

Dude, How about you start a thread on how you think Hard Spun is a bigger threat than Officer Rocket! It seems to be that your the only one having a hard time following your own thread! And yes, I whole-heartedly feel that Officer Rocket will turn out to be a much better horse than the un-proven Hard Spun!

umm Dude. My initial response if you read back a bit was that I read Larry Jones saying that he did not handle the track. It was you who started the whole debate. I simple said it was one of two things. Either Hard Spun did not handle track or Officer Rocket is that good of a horse and said I was leaning to option 1. you made it into a debate. Dude

[MISTERGEE]

ride was ok, horse ran the same as he usually does, at least beyer number wise

[Samarta]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I didn't see the trip as being that bad. To me it looked very ordinary given the post. He showed me very little in that race.

Good luck with him, you'll need it.

I tend to agree....initially I was a big critic of the ride, to the point where I said Pino had ridden him for the last time...I will say it was combination of a couple of things one of which was the ride....the other and it was posted here was that Jones or Pino paid no attention to the rail bias in the races prior....he was never put into position to win.....now I have a hard time with the excuse of he didn't like the track because one of the reasons (beside a cough) that they didn't ship to the Risen Star was because of how much he loved the track. Now the last reason and I think the one none of the "fans" want to talk about is he's not that good......he's a nice horse, but he's not as good as the ink said he was......