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Old 02-26-2007, 03:08 PM
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Not particularly. Frankly I look at maiden races loaded with firsters as necessary evils and more for gathering information for the future. The betting will tell you much more than pedigree info.
Can the betting be misleading sometimes though with Pletcher, particularly at Saratoga? He wins at a good clip, but aren't the horses, for a non-proven horse, short for the most part?
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:19 PM
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Can the betting be misleading sometimes though with Pletcher, particularly at Saratoga? He wins at a good clip, but aren't the horses, for a non-proven horse, short for the most part?
" Short " is relative.

It's not easy....believe me and I am very careful with these races.
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:25 PM
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" Short " is relative.

It's not easy....believe me and I am very careful with these races.
Maybe that would be a good idea for a show? Unless it's very, very basic?
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:28 PM
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Andy that sounds like a real winner. I will sign up for YouBet for this reason alone. It sounds like a show by knowledgable cappers for the people that are serious about cappin.

Do you know how long the shows will be, and will they be broadcast live?

Will I have to watch at a particular time or can I download it, or stream it later. My problem is always being ready at a certain time in order not to miss something.
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:30 PM
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They will probably be 20-30 minutes and will be available Friday through Saturday at least. They will be taped....not live.
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Old 02-26-2007, 03:33 PM
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They will probably be 20-30 minutes and will be available Friday through Saturday at least. They will be taped....not live.
Cool. I'm signing up, too. Glad they're accesible Friday to Saturday! While my job doesn't seem to have issues with a racing chat board being accessed on my work computer, I think a gambling website might not be regarded kindly.
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Old 02-26-2007, 04:07 PM
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Sounds great, BTW. I have one suggestion for a topic. It may seem elementary to some, but there are handicappers that don't really know how to compare horses who've run in allowances(restricted or open) versus claiming, optional claimers and starter handicaps. I think an in-depth discussion of the race levels and major class drops and rises could be helpful to some.
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Old 02-26-2007, 06:14 PM
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They will probably be 20-30 minutes and will be available Friday through Saturday at least. They will be taped....not live.
Good luck.

Good thing it's taped, for replaying.
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:30 AM
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Youbet.com is currently offering a 60 day free trial. Usually I use Capital OTB, but they have suspended on-line streaming for unknown reasons. I find with Youbet I can concentrate on the track(s) of my choice, with live video streaming, current odds, payouts and even replays. A better product than I have been getting from CapitalOTB.
Looking forward to the addition of "Playing to Win" with what looks like a strong line-up of guest handicappers. Good luck Andy.
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Old 02-26-2007, 04:04 PM
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What about handicapping angles that involve a runner exiting either an exceptionally fast or slow paced race, and how that plays into the current race.
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Old 02-26-2007, 04:47 PM
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What about handicapping angles that involve a runner exiting either an exceptionally fast or slow paced race, and how that plays into the current race.

Good point but I think that falls into identifying race dynamics and looking for horses with buried form and I will definitely be talking about that.
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Old 02-26-2007, 04:58 PM
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Already have Youbet, but I can't be with it through Al Jajersey...I'll call in for you. The least I can do.
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congrats andy. im sure this will be a great venu for your great oppinion...and a tough ride for those that dont agree..lol
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congrats andy. im sure this will be a great venu for your great oppinion...and a tough ride for those that dont agree..lol
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Looking forward to your show on Youbet, sounds like you will have a great line up with Andy Beyer, Steve Crist, Mike Watchmaker and Steve Davidowitz.

Somehow I don't think i'll be seeing Jan Rushton on your show
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Old 02-26-2007, 06:17 PM
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Looking forward to your show on Youbet, sounds like you will have a great line up with Andy Beyer, Steve Crist, Mike Watchmaker and Steve Davidowitz.

Somehow I don't think i'll be seeing Jan Rushton on your show
She might be serving the coffee, you never know.
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