NY Jockeys Going on STRIKE

[pmacdaddy]

I know the initial post here was in jest. But this topic really drives me nuts.

If the Jockeys can't get their act together and come up with a private arrangement to get the specialized care they desire. They go to the closest Trauma Center. Same as the Cops,Firefighters and everyone else.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy

I know the initial post here was in jest. But this topic really drives me nuts.

If the Jockeys can't get their act together and come up with a private arrangement to get the specialized care they desire. They go to the closest Trauma Center. Same as the Cops,Firefighters and everyone else.

I have a real big issue with your statement, first off why is it the jockeys issue to come up with a private arrangement? If the Trauma Center with which they are being sent to is not really qualified to treat them then I think it is a very public issue , just the same as you picking which doctor you go to . In 1995 I went down on a horse that compound fractured its leg , I flew thru the air for about 20 feet before landing on my left side and rolling under the rail , when I hit the ground I heard this very loud pop on my left side shoulder area. I assumed that I had either broke my shoulder or collar bone and the pain was instant. The EMT's arrived and put me on a board with a collar around my neck and transported me to the nearest emergency room , there I was x rayed and told that there was nothing wrong with me and that I was fine and that I could resume riding in a few days. Here's the problem there was something wrong with me , I couldnt sit up in the E.R. bed without pulling myself up using the bed rail with my right arm. Still they said there was nothing wrong with me and that I was fine. About a week later I drove back home to AZ. still not being able to really use my left arm I was really worried that something was drastically wrong so I made an appointment at Health South in Phx. Az , they specialize in sports injurys and treating athletes and 2 weeks after the injury I was finally getting to see a doctor. He examined me and set it up for me to have a scan of my upper body as he suspected something was very wrong with me. The results of the scan were this, my left clavical was dislocated from my sternum , it was now free floating up near my throat area instead of being attatched at my sternum like the right , he couldnt understand how the other doctors could have missed something so signifigant, I was informed of my options which were basically none because to much time had passed since the tendon that holds that part of your clavical to the sternum had atrofied and that basically I was screwed and was just going to have to live with it . Thru therapy they retrained some muscles to help in that area and strengthen it up but it was never going to be as strong as it once was. I was given a 5 % permenant partial disability because of it , and to this day I cannot sleep on my left side because my collar bone pokes me in the throat and because its misaligned a have alot of pain in my shoulder. Choices are important when it comes to peoples well being and had I had a choice I would have asked to go to Denver Medical or something similar to that , but beacuse I didnt I get to live with this for the rest of my life. Had a doctor diagnosed me properly when the injury first accured I would have had a 75% chance that they would have been able to repair it and I would have normal function in that area. But that is not what happened.

[pmacdaddy]

Sorry to hear about your accident.

I understand that Jockeys may wish to be treated somewhere other than the closest Trauma center.

Problem is that they are relying on EMS to transport them for care. The rules in New York City are you go the nearest Trauma Center, period. Jamaica Hospital is a certified Level 1 Trauma Center and the closest Trauma Center to Aqueduct.

If they want something different, they should negotiate an arrangement and pay for it like everyone else in the world does.

EMS is just following the rules.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy

Sorry to hear about your accident.

I understand that Jockeys may wish to be treated somewhere other than the closest Trauma center.

Problem is that they are relying on EMS to transport them for care. The rules in New York City are you go the nearest Trauma Center, period. Jamaica Hospital is a certified Level 1 Trauma Center and the closest Trauma Center to Aqueduct.

If they want something different, they should negotiate an arrangement and pay for it like everyone else in the world does.

EMS is just following the rules.

They do pay for it , every year jockeys sign away their media rights to get accident insurance provided by the racetracks.

[Storm Cadet]

I don't believe that NYRA uses NYC EMS. I think they use a private company that is staffed by EMT's. And if they do then NYRA should NOT use NYC EMS but a PRIVATE company like EVERY PRO TEAM and COLLEGE uses in New York so the athletes are taken to the hospital of their choice for NON-LIFE Threatening injuries. Only those type of injuries must be transported to nearest Trauma center.

Mets and STJ use private companies and get their athletes transported to hospital of their choice in NYC from Queens.

Giants and Jets in NJ get theirs to transported to Manhattan. Yankees from Bronx to NYC. They all do it. Knicks and Rangers get theirs sent updown to upper West Side.

The problem is there is NO ONE in attendance that will make the tough call to where the jocks can/should go! It's easier for the attending MD to just send them to nearest facility, regardless of if they will get adequate care.

[pmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by Storm Cadet

Then NYRA should NOT use EMS but a PRIVATE company like EVERY PRO TEAM and COLLEGE uses in New York so the athletes are taken to the hospital of their choice for NON-LIFE Threatening injuries. Only those type of injuries must be transported to nearest Trauma center.

Mets and STJ use private companies and get their athletes transported to hospital of their choice in NYC.

Giants in NJ get theirs to transport to Manhattan. Yankees from Bronx to NYC. They all do it.

The problem is there is NO ONE in attendance that will make the tough call to where the jocks can/should go! It's easier for the attending MD to just send them to nearest facility, regardless of if they will get adequate care.

Believe me, I'm not sticking up for NYRA. A private on-call Ambulance may well be a good idea. But someone has to pay for it, not expect EMS to obey their wishes.

Seems like these issues should have all been worked out a long time ago between NYRA and the Jocks.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Honu

They do pay for it , every year jockeys sign away their media rights to get accident insurance provided by the racetracks.

Those media rights are worthless

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Those media rights are worthless

So you say , but thats the way it goes , sure seems that racetrack management doesnt feel that way or why would they even do it , must be something to it .

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Honu

So you say , but thats the way it goes , sure seems that racetrack management doesnt feel that way or why would they even do it , must be something to it .

They do it as a courtesy. There is no "media" that is interested in these rights.