Baffert Fined

Originally Posted by oracle80

If you are a track exec, you have to make sure the players and stars of teh show are accomodated. That means on your time, not theirs. Cd really fouled this up and its not the first horror story I have heard about. Make sure the people you hire to deal with them COME TO THEM and do it when it is convenient for them. Baffert wakes up and has to train, then he has to do all those interviews. Then hes gotta call his owners and fax them to keep them apprised of whats going on with their horses. Then hes gotta make sure horses who need to be entered that day are entered properly. Then hes gotta make a out a training chart for the division back in California and fax that and talk to his asst trainer there to make sure thinsg are going ok, see how the horses there are doing, and make sure he knows what he wants em to do.
After that "light work" hes gotta go back to where he is staying and see the wife and kid, take a nap and eat, and then shower and get dressed to get back over to the track for the races. And thats just a derby week day, derby day is 100 times worse. Where exactly is he supposed to find the time to call and arrange the other bs. Those guys whould be waited on by the track to insure that THEIR day and the day of their GUESTS goes silky smooth. They are putting on the show, not the track. They just collect the cash from the show.

LOL@Oracle. Baffert has 364 days to call to get credentials. I think he can find 5 minutes to call in order to make sure HIS guests are accomodated. Churchill has rules for everyone to follow. He dropped the ball on this one and took his frustration out on a security guard. I bet Churchill had to talk the guards out of pressing assualt charges. But again, this is a non-issue in my eyes.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

LOL@Oracle. Baffert has 364 days to call to get credentials. I think he can find 5 minutes to call in order to make sure HIS guests are accomodated. Churchill has rules for everyone to follow. He dropped the ball on this one and took his frustration out on a security guard. I bet Churchill had to talk the guards out of pressing assualt charges. But again, this is a non-issue in my eyes.

You can't get credentials that far in advance.

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

You can't get credentials that far in advance.

I know that--it was the point I was trying to make Cajun. He can find the time for a 5 minute conversation.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I know that--it was the point I was trying to make Cajun. He can find the time for a 5 minute conversation.

Says who? You? Who are you to say what kind of time restrictions these guys are under. I posted a typical day for a trainer like Todd or baffert, and I'm sure I left out a WHOLE lot more. Kind of arrogant for you to say he has 5 more minutes in his day when he most likely does not.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I know that--it was the point I was trying to make Cajun. He can find the time for a 5 minute conversation.

It's not that easy, but hey... I see your point. I just don't think that worrying about credentials is in Baffert's job description.

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

It's not that easy, but hey... I see your point. I just don't think that worrying about credentials is in Baffert's job description.

Well Cajun, it is Baffert's responsiblity. They are his guests so therefore it is his responsibility to make sure they are taken care of. It isnt Churchills. Churchill has their own guests to take care of in Millionaire's row.

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

You can't get credentials that far in advance.

STill not an excuse.

To hell with the little peon in enforcing the rules????

Change the system before you go off on two innocent security guards.

To make sure all the rules are followed, two years ago. John Magnier was at Churchill and he wanted to get into an aread of the track where you had to have a pass and the security guard wouldnt let him through - lol. Magnier asked the security guard if he knew who he was and he said "yes sir, you are John Magnier." Magnier said "thank you." The security guard said "you still are not going to get in without your credentials. Magnier went back to get his pass-lol.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

To make sure all the rules are followed, two years ago. John Magnier was at Churchill and he wanted to get into an aread of the track where you had to have a pass and the security guard wouldnt let him through - lol. Magnier asked the security guard if he knew who he was and he said "yes sir, you are John Magnier." Magnier said "thank you." The security guard said "you still are not going to get in without your credentials. Magnier went back to get his pass-lol.

And you as a CD cheerleader are proud of that? That a guy who has put hundreds of millions in the game, that the guard knew who he was, was forced to go back and get a piece of paper for "regulations" purpose? Geez, thats just horrible. I never heard anything so awful in my life. Thank God they won't get their hands on NY racing. Thats the last thing NY racing needs, moronic bureaucratic regs where trained people just don't have the guts or authority to make judgement calls. Ask a CEO of any successful company if he wants drones working for him or people who can think and make decisions and see what they tell you.

Originally Posted by oracle80

And you as a CD cheerleader are proud of that? That a guy who has put hundreds of millions in the game, that the guard knew who he was, was forced to go back and get a piece of paper for "regulations" purpose? Geez, thats just horrible. I never heard anything so awful in my life. Thank God they won't get their hands on NY racing. Thats the last thing NY racing needs, moronic bureaucratic regs where trained people just don't have the guts or authority to make judgement calls. Ask a CEO of any successful company if he wants drones working for him or people who can think and make decisions and see what they tell you.

Again, I do not agree. But there are rules to follow. It is nice to see the guards follow the rules. Maybe all this great horsemen ship in New York is the reason why the NYRA is so successful.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Again, I do not agree. But there are rules to follow. It is nice to see the guards follow the rules. Maybe all this great horsemen ship in New York is the reason why the NYRA is so successful.

yeah, they should take guys like Magnier and make em go back and get a piece of paper to see a horse they own run. That would really help them out a whole lot. lol

Originally Posted by oracle80

yeah, they should take guys like Magnier and make em go back and get a piece of paper to see a horse they own run. That would really help them out a whole lot. lol

Yes they should if the people that are hired dont know who owns who. At least have someone from track management with security help the poor dude(s). They may not know the royality.

[Thoroughbred Fan]

Bob Baffert was not at fault. It is not like he is inconspicuous. He is the white-haired trainer of several Derby winners already. CD screwed the pooch on this one. The security for the paddock of the Derby should have walkie-talkies to the management staff. This shouldn't have been more than a "Baffert has an extra." Management says " let him the hell in then!"

Even at the level I am involved in this game and the horror thaat is Magna. We have brought up to 8 people to a free 4 person luch when you run in a listed stakes and they comp it all. For twice the allowed number of people. CD should have kissed Baffert's a$$ for even making him upset at the Derby. If I am Baffert, next time I have a super horse and the racing secretary from CD calls him up to see if I'll run in their race, I wouldn't even answer the phone.

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

Bob Baffert was not at fault. It is not like he is inconspicuous. He is the white-haired trainer of several Derby winners already. CD screwed the pooch on this one. The security for the paddock of the Derby should have walkie-talkies to the management staff. This shouldn't have been more than a "Baffert has an extra." Management says " let him the hell in then!"

Even at the level I am involved in this game and the horror thaat is Magna. We have brought up to 8 people to a free 4 person luch when you run in a listed stakes and they comp it all. For twice the allowed number of people. CD should have kissed Baffert's a$$ for even making him upset at the Derby. If I am Baffert, next time I have a super horse and the racing secretary from CD calls him up to see if I'll run in their race, I wouldn't even answer the phone.

Still not an excuse. Do you think Baffert has enough brains and compassion to think, " hey wait a minute, this poor dude does not know me from Adam and has been told not to let anybody in. He has been given rules and the guy is just following them..." ? or he just does not care?

Sometimes you got to have a little class and think about the position some people are put in while doing the jobs they have been told to do. Thats civility and courteous.

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan

Bob Baffert was not at fault. It is not like he is inconspicuous. He is the white-haired trainer of several Derby winners already. CD screwed the pooch on this one. The security for the paddock of the Derby should have walkie-talkies to the management staff. This shouldn't have been more than a "Baffert has an extra." Management says " let him the hell in then!"

Even at the level I am involved in this game and the horror thaat is Magna. We have brought up to 8 people to a free 4 person luch when you run in a listed stakes and they comp it all. For twice the allowed number of people. CD should have kissed Baffert's a$$ for even making him upset at the Derby. If I am Baffert, next time I have a super horse and the racing secretary from CD calls him up to see if I'll run in their race, I wouldn't even answer the phone.

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