Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-24-2007, 10:08 AM
point given
 
Posts: n/a
Default ramazutti

Quote:
Originally Posted by docicu3
Go Between should be decent value and has a few historical items of note.

1) 2-2 on turf at GP Edgar has a win and a second on the horse in 2 starts in the last 12 months. The win a graded stakes at GP from similiar post. A slight homefield familiarity if not advantage over some.

2) His pattern is forward with a possibility that he may not have reached his peak this racing cycle if he gets a favorable trip. It is possible that if there really is a "speed bias" to the turf course as it becomes drier and harder as some DT's have suggested that he may try and steal it even at 11F knowing that others in the race are better closers and his best chance is to press or wire it.

3) His last race against Lavadude was perhaps his best albeit in a losing effort and thankfully this isn't California Toto where Lavaman dominates but a track that Go Between is comfortable at and has a modest history of evolving success.

4) As the sage in numerous posts above says this isn't the greatest stakes race period and thus may be devoid of early or earlier speed so having the ability to potentially exploit a racing angle or approach may spell success for #4.

I'm keying the 4 over 2/6/8....and hoping for the best.
I can't see why Ramazutti won't be on the lead in this one. His rating in last race was due to a need the lead horse who grabbed the lead. I'd be shocked if R isnot on the lead in here. I still think Einstein will be tough in here, last years race was devoid of speed, so he went to the lead, this years race I'd expect him to rate. Should be a good race, I'm going down today to see it, although I abhor Saturdays at Gulfstream.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-24-2007, 10:41 AM
Gander Gander is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,336
Default

Who gives a rat's ass if its a grade 1 or Grade 5? Unless you own a horse in here, really what difference does it make to you? Its a fantastic betting race where any one of about 6 in my opinion can win. It will totally depend on the odds as the winner of this race is nothing more than a guess and a lucky trip. That said, I agree with Hooves that Tommy Turner has a chance to win. Leaning towards him as he will most likely be the best price of those that I think are the most likeliest to win...Mustanfar and Jambalaya. Go Between is so overrated and slow. I didnt like Einstein but now that I read he has "no chance" that makes him a contender to me, LOL!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-24-2007, 10:44 AM
randallscott35's Avatar
randallscott35 randallscott35 is offline
Idlewild Airport
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 9,687
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gander
Who gives a rat's ass if its a grade 1 or Grade 5? Unless you own a horse in here, really what difference does it make to you? Its a fantastic betting race where any one of about 6 in my opinion can win. It will totally depend on the odds as the winner of this race is nothing more than a guess and a lucky trip. That said, I agree with Hooves that Tommy Turner has a chance to win. Leaning towards him as he will most likely be the best price of those that I think are the most likeliest to win...Mustanfar and Jambalaya. Go Between is so overrated and slow. I didnt like Einstein but now that I read he has "no chance" that makes him a contender to me, LOL!
I'm not Seattle my man.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-24-2007, 10:48 AM
Gander Gander is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,336
Default

Maybe not, but to say this horse has no chance in this field on this turf course, training as good as he has been is kind of silly. Not my favorite horse or my top selection but I repeat, there are few in here who cant win this.
I think the worst bet on the board will be the mare Honey Ryder at what figures to be around 7/2 or 4/1. She can win but not with my money.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-24-2007, 10:56 AM
randallscott35's Avatar
randallscott35 randallscott35 is offline
Idlewild Airport
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 9,687
Default

If I was going to bet it, I'd be playing Mustanfar.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-24-2007, 11:00 AM
Gander Gander is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,336
Default

Mustanfar figures for sure. I think if they all ran their A race, he would win but thats why they call it gambling. I think Interpretation will be the best bet on the board, all things considered. Not sure how I am playing this yet.

I loved Rutledge Cat in the 7th and he got scratched so all my late combos are out the window.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-25-2007, 06:36 AM
Dunbar's Avatar
Dunbar Dunbar is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,962
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gander
Maybe not, but to say this horse has no chance in this field on this turf course, training as good as he has been is kind of silly. Not my favorite horse or my top selection but I repeat, there are few in here who cant win this.
I think the worst bet on the board will be the mare Honey Ryder at what figures to be around 7/2 or 4/1. She can win but not with my money.
Well said. The first 9 horses were separated by 3 lengths at the finish.

--Dunbar
__________________
Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar
photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.