Can Einstein do a repeat in the Gulfstream BC Turf

[blackthroatedwind]

And she'll lose too.

But, then again, I have never liked her.

[Cajungator26]

I'm with DaHoss on this. I like the mare.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

And she'll lose too.

But, then again, I have never liked her.

Who beats her?

That is a pretty shabby group for the Gr 1 level.

This is a Grade III not a grade I.............





right?

That being said, I like Go Between at a price.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Who beats her?

That is a pretty shabby group for the Gr 1 level.

That's a ridiculous question, which Pillow Pants addressed correctly, as continuing to call this race a Grade 1 epitomizes everything wrong with the grading system.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Good luck with Go Between guys. He's a true dog-biscuit if you ask me.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Good luck with Go Between guys. He's a true dog-biscuit if you ask me.

Yeah, he's probably too slow, but he may have some upside and this field sucks.

I liked Jambalaya until about five minutes ago. I know I don't want anyone out of the Mac Diarmeda.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

tommy turner has them right where he wants them....lol

[The Indomitable DrugS]

As crazy as it sounds, I believe anyone of HR's last six races (except the 4th in the Beverley D. when she was oddly close to a pace that was too fast for her comfort zone) are good enough to win.

I just see her in the 8/5-to-2/1 price range instead of the 4/1 she is on the line.

Besides singling her in multi-win exotics, I doubt I will have any bet on this race.

[docicu3]

Go Between should be decent value and has a few historical items of note.

1) 2-2 on turf at GP Edgar has a win and a second on the horse in 2 starts in the last 12 months. The win a graded stakes at GP from similiar post. A slight homefield familiarity if not advantage over some.

2) His pattern is forward with a possibility that he may not have reached his peak this racing cycle if he gets a favorable trip. It is possible that if there really is a "speed bias" to the turf course as it becomes drier and harder as some DT's have suggested that he may try and steal it even at 11F knowing that others in the race are better closers and his best chance is to press or wire it.

3) His last race against Lavadude was perhaps his best albeit in a losing effort and thankfully this isn't California Toto where Lavaman dominates but a track that Go Between is comfortable at and has a modest history of evolving success.

4) As the sage in numerous posts above says this isn't the greatest stakes race period and thus may be devoid of early or earlier speed so having the ability to potentially exploit a racing angle or approach may spell success for #4.

I'm keying the 4 over 2/6/8....and hoping for the best.

Originally Posted by docicu3

Go Between should be decent value and has a few historical items of note.

1) 2-2 on turf at GP Edgar has a win and a second on the horse in 2 starts in the last 12 months. The win a graded stakes at GP from similiar post. A slight homefield familiarity if not advantage over some.

2) His pattern is forward with a possibility that he may not have reached his peak this racing cycle if he gets a favorable trip. It is possible that if there really is a "speed bias" to the turf course as it becomes drier and harder as some DT's have suggested that he may try and steal it even at 11F knowing that others in the race are better closers and his best chance is to press or wire it.

3) His last race against Lavadude was perhaps his best albeit in a losing effort and thankfully this isn't California Toto where Lavaman dominates but a track that Go Between is comfortable at and has a modest history of evolving success.

4) As the sage in numerous posts above says this isn't the greatest stakes race period and thus may be devoid of early or earlier speed so having the ability to potentially exploit a racing angle or approach may spell success for #4.

I'm keying the 4 over 2/6/8....and hoping for the best.

I can't see why Ramazutti won't be on the lead in this one. His rating in last race was due to a need the lead horse who grabbed the lead. I'd be shocked if R isnot on the lead in here. I still think Einstein will be tough in here, last years race was devoid of speed, so he went to the lead, this years race I'd expect him to rate. Should be a good race, I'm going down today to see it, although I abhor Saturdays at Gulfstream.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yeah, he's probably too slow, but he may have some upside and this field sucks.

I liked Jambalaya until about five minutes ago. I know I don't want anyone out of the Mac Diarmeda.

What did I miss? I like Jambalaya here too.

[blackthroatedwind]

The winner and second horse got picture perfect trips and Einstein was much the best. And I say that as someone who didn't like his chances at all.