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[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

And I'm saying they are a bigger deal than you think.

Also, if someone came out and said "The Virgin Mary is a c*nt", are you trying to tell me GLAAD would have said somethign in defense of the Catholic church!?!? IOW, if it was a "big deal".

And I'm saying it's not as big a deal as you, Donahue, or any other person who has been deeply offended by these comments thinks.

Difference in tastes, I suppose.

I can't speak for what GLAAD would do if that happened, because that would be a big deal. Who knows. If you find me a rollicking big deal that happened, we can check into what GLAAD did. You can google that one yourself. But thus far, we're playing hypotheticals because this whole thing was not, in fact, a big deal.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

To some people is was. That is what you and Mercotte fail, or care, to see. Just as Hardaway's comments "aren't, in fact, a big deal"...to some folks.

I didn't say that Hardaway should lose his job and place pressure on him until he quit.

So, what exactly is the point? He said what he said. Sure I think it's a big deal, but I have not advocated for any negative consequences in his life as a result of it.

That's the difference.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

This is nonsensical in context of what you're quoting from me. AFAIK, no one here advocted her getting fired, etc.

The point is, just because it is not a big deal to you, doesn't mean it is not a big deal to someone else.

Well, arguing over whether to buy regular eggs or jumbo eggs is a big deal to some people too. Calling a female dog a bitch is offensive to some people. They're not big deals.

Point is, that I don't care if it's a big deal to some people. I don't care about that or them either. If people were really outrageously offended by this stupid 'incident,' then I would venture that I would find most of the rest of what they think to be foolish and ignorant rubbish as well.....which would mean that I don't care about them. But I wouldn't advocate forcing them out of a job they were offered, which is exactly what happened here. Someone cries wolf, someone loses a job. That's bullshit, if I may say so.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Such tolerance.

The problem is, you think that only Donahue and folks of his ilk were offended. Based on what I've read PRIOR to the big media hoopla, that is not the case.

It may be bullshit, but its also politics.

It was not politics to begin with. It was personal blogging from before she was on Edwards campaign team. It was a seedy smear campaign against Edwards, which Donahue had no qualms about admitting during the fiasco. It would hurt Edwards if he kept up with it, and he made that quite clear.

I'm sure as far as "anti-Catholic" vitriol goes, he could have undoubtedly found thousands of more serious offenders....but he could hurt a Democratic candidate at the same time, and that's an I'm-an-******* bonus for guys like Donahuhe.

[brianwspencer]

[quote=Bababooyee]But holding people's feet to the fire for past comments IS politics.[\QUOTE]

If she were a politician, sure. It had no correlation to anything relevant to her job description for the Edwards campaign. Donahue could make it something to hurt Edwards, and he did. It doesn't make it right for her to lose her job, politics or not.

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

PS: clue me in on what the ****** word was!

A-hole, of course. Though, I'm shocked that DT doesn't ******* the word "Donahue," seeing as they are synonomous.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

I kind of liked the Phil Donahue Show when I was a kid. He was kinda like Springer and Oprah wraped into one.

I'd take Sally Jesse over anything. I used to watch it every day after school when I was in junior high.

[horseofcourse]

First off, Donahue is not catholic...any claims that he is by himself are purely for egotistical reasons. He in no way represents the catholic church on any matter. Him speaking for a catholic organization is sort of like Zippy Chippy speaking for grade 1 winning horses or something like that.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

But holding people's feet to the fire for past comments IS politics.



Well, that I agree with. Like I said, politics. It is much nastier than it used to be...or it seems that way.

PS: clue me in on what the ****** word was!

Politics ebbs and flows in terms of "nasty"- though interestingly enough, there is a correlation between levels of economic divide and the vitriol spewed during campaigns-- the bigger the divide between rich and poor, the uglier the campaigns. So yes, it's nastier now than it was in the 1950's, but not any nastier than in the late 1800's.

Interesting discussion, as always, my friends. I'm off for the rest of the night. Have lovely evenings!