JAZIL'S SISTER! Gr. I Las Virgenes

[Betsy]

You sure have high standards, King Glorious. The filly was wide throughout the race, extremely wide - she was moving fast, as Gomez said, but she had to work hard to even get in contention. Yours is the first post to really discredit the filly (the first post that I've seen anyway), asking a lot from an inexperienced filly with a bad post.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Betsy

You sure have high standards, King Glorious. The filly was wide throughout the race, extremely wide - she was moving fast, as Gomez said, but she had to work hard to even get in contention. Yours is the first post to really discredit the filly (the first post that I've seen anyway), asking a lot from an inexperienced filly with a bad post.

I don't mean to discredit her. I think she's got some talent and is obviously improving. The good thing is that it won't take much to be a top level horse among the 3yo fillies this year. They are a pathetic group at best. But today's race was not as impressive to me as it seems it was to the rest of u. Sure, she was wide. But from the 8th pole to the wire, it's a straight shot. Doesn't matter if u are on the rail or 20-wide. And she ran her final eighth in 12.85 seconds. I'm sorry but that's not moving fast at all. Especially in a race as short as 8f. The reason it appeared she was moving so fast is because the others were slowing down much faster than she was. She wasn't moving fast. If Baroness Thatcher and Runway Rosie had been ANY kind of horse, Rags finishes third in this race. It would have been a decent third considering the trip but still third. Because those other two are nothing and gave it up like $2 whores, Rags' race is being looked at like some kind of super-human (or is it super-horseman?) effort, all perspective is being lost, and she's going to be 1/5 next out. I'll pass.

[slotdirt]

Rags to Riches is the most overrated horse in the history of horse racing!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Rags to Riches is the most overrated horse in the history of horse racing!

LOL Slot...

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I don't mean to discredit her. I think she's got some talent and is obviously improving. The good thing is that it won't take much to be a top level horse among the 3yo fillies this year. They are a pathetic group at best. But today's race was not as impressive to me as it seems it was to the rest of u. Sure, she was wide. But from the 8th pole to the wire, it's a straight shot. Doesn't matter if u are on the rail or 20-wide. And she ran her final eighth in 12.85 seconds. I'm sorry but that's not moving fast at all. Especially in a race as short as 8f. The reason it appeared she was moving so fast is because the others were slowing down much faster than she was. She wasn't moving fast. If Baroness Thatcher and Runway Rosie had been ANY kind of horse, Rags finishes third in this race. It would have been a decent third considering the trip but still third. Because those other two are nothing and gave it up like $2 whores, Rags' race is being looked at like some kind of super-human (or is it super-horseman?) effort, all perspective is being lost, and she's going to be 1/5 next out. I'll pass.

So, you think she has SOME talent, and is improving? Gee what an astute observation given that she won a GR1 in her third start.
You have gone to new heights this time. Nobody told you to bet the horse next time at 1 to 5, so pass if you like it really doesn't matter. All people are talking about is what this filly did in her third start and first time around two turns.

You make a habit to come in a try to pour cold water on anybody getting excited about a horse and to me the act is very old now.

You called Baroness Thatcher and Runway Rosie nothings. You call the other 3 yo's pathethic? Why can't you just enjoy what these horse ARE, and stop bashing every other horse because they don't live up to your standards for what they should be?

So what that some people thought Rags To Riches ran such a good race? why does that compel you to come on and shoot down the performance with your fractional time analysis. She beat everyone in the field on Saturday, wasn't that good enough?

My own opinion? I was impressed. I thought she beat a pretty deep field of fillies while giving away a lot of experience and while racing very wide. My pick was Runway Rosie so I lost on the race but I couldn't believe how Rags To Riches kept on coming.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Betsy

You sure have high standards, King Glorious. The filly was wide throughout the race, extremely wide - she was moving fast, as Gomez said, but she had to work hard to even get in contention. Yours is the first post to really discredit the filly (the first post that I've seen anyway), asking a lot from an inexperienced filly with a bad post.

Yes in his mind she should have not only won but also equaled the track record. Only then would she have received his tepid enthusiasm.
Don't worry, this is the guy who told us that Bernardini was going to break Secretariats track record in the BCC and even better, that Invasor was a fraud and would finish off the board. In the Donn last week he said Invasor would be no better than third. To him almost all horses are frauds and pathetic and don't measure up. I really don't know why he is involved in the sport as the only pleasure he seems to take from it is pouring cold water on any people that show any type of excitement.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Yes in his mind she should have not only won but also equaled the track record. Only then would she have received his tepid enthusiasm.
Don't worry, this is the guy who told us that Bernardini was going to break Secretariats track record in the BCC and even better, that Invasor was a fraud and would finish off the board. In the Donn last week he said Invasor would be no better than third. To him almost all horses are frauds and pathetic and don't measure up. I really don't know why he is involved in the sport as the only pleasure he seems to take from it is pouring cold water on any people that show any type of excitement.

LOL Well, in my dreams, I had Bernardini breaking the record, too! I think it's pretty obvious that I am love any horse by AP Indy, so of course, I love this filly too. I'm not going to go overboard and proclaim this filly the be all and end all; she may end up being a champion or maybe not, but Rags is going to be fun to watch all the same - she's a pretty little thing. I can't worry about the fractions being what they were because Rags lost several lengths due to how wide she was. It's asking a lot for her to not only go insanely wide throughout the race, but also finish up very fast, especially a filly who has run only 3 times in her career and never against such competition.

King Glorious, I reread my post again and I think I probably sounded more abrupt than I meant. Just because I've read mostly raves doesn't mean that you aren't entitled to your opinion - it's no big deal to disagree.

In any case, I figure RTR will get a lot out of this race; I heard she galloped out reallly well.........I just hope she stays healthy, esp. she had some problems that kept her from racing the remainder of her 2 year old year (her debut was in June).