Moss Pace Figures

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

seems like a nice guy with a genuine passion for the game, but most knowledgeable? LOL strongly disagree there!

Which mainstream TV personality do you find more knowledgable than Randy? I'm actually curious.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

for starters jeanine edwards

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

for starters jeanine edwards

I think she does a terrific job but I also believe Randy is more knowledgable about the game, especially from a player's perspective, and I would hazard a guess that Jeanine Edwards would probably agree.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think she does a terrific job but I also believe Randy is more knowledgable about the game, especially from a player's perspective, and I would hazard a guess that Jeanine Edwards would probably agree.

well again i strongly disagree and i think randy's on air handicapping is absolutely brutal and i would hazard a guess that many agree with me on that

[Scav]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

well again i strongly disagree and i think randy's on air handicapping is absolutely brutal and i would hazard a guess that many agree with me on that

I don't know playa, he picks the bud longshot and there was a time where he hit like 6 in a row or something some time back, not only that but his reasoning is solid. Solid consistent correct reasoning is the only way to beat this game....

[blackthroatedwind]

Personally I think Randy Moss is the best thing that ever happened to racing on mainstream television. However, that is irrelevent to the real discussion of this thread. Pace figures in general can be a real asset to any serious player and I think people here owe it to themselves to at least take a look at them and see if they can incorperate them into their handicapping. Every one of us can become better players and if not make more money then lose less. How can that be bad?

[Sightseek]

Under races of the week section on the DRF you can also choose to download PP's with or without the Moss Pace Figures to give them a try.

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Personally I think Randy Moss is the best thing that ever happened to racing on mainstream television. However, that is irrelevent to the real discussion of this thread. Pace figures in general can be a real asset to any serious player and I think people here owe it to themselves to at least take a look at them and see if they can incorperate them into their handicapping. Every one of us can become better players and if not make more money then lose less. How can that be bad?

I think Moss is pretty much the only Positive with respect to on-air racing (exluding TVG and all the other dish/cable networks) broadcasts. With that being said, i think the worst thing for horse racing is Kenny Maine. He's..... brutal with his dry awkward jokes that don't get picked up on by colleagues . The worst, is when they show a re-run of a race run previously in the day and he says "not gonna tell ya, watch out for ..." basically ruins the whole f*cking race, might as well just look at the damn chart. Oh yeah, he's also an automatic hedge in my book, he can't cap for sh!t
Jeanine Edwards has some smarts (and a hell of a pair of legs), I believe she was on the MD circuit for a while before she was called up to the big leagues. As far as her capping, i don't think she brings much to the table.... she does interviews, tells how the horses are acting/looking, then her day is done. She = Charlsy Canty

-bt-

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

for starters jeanine edwards

while I would agree Edwards is fine as racings "sideline reporter" she is so far from the type of racing knowledge that Moss has.

Moss pace figures might be a good thing but reading through the DRF website there sure is very little on how best to use them, I would assume the Moss on Pace" book is coming next.

I also think its a travesty that Beyer and Moss could not work together and have the numbers at least correspond.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Moss pace figures might be a good thing but reading through the DRF website there sure is very little on how best to use them, I would assume the Moss on Pace" book is coming next.

I also think its a travesty that Beyer and Moss could not work together and have the numbers at least correspond.

What is the travesty of this? One fig is pace; the other final time. How should they correspond? Final may be a partial function of pace but it's certainly more interpretive than correlational.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Moss pace figures might be a good thing but reading through the DRF website there sure is very little on how best to use them, I would assume the Moss on Pace" book is coming next.

Read Brohammer's book "Modern Pace Handicapping." He explains the Sartain methodology and Quirin's shapes which are the foundation for most sophisticated pace handicapping today.

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

Read Brohammer's book "Modern Pace Handicapping." He explains the Sartain methodology and Quirin's shapes which are the foundation for most sophisticated pace handicapping today.

I was talking more about the beginner who stumbles onto the new figures.