JAZIL....Most Overrated horse in the history of horse racing....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

O.K...Some people have made some big statements.We will see what takes place this year.Like I have said,I like both horses,and yes,Gander,trainers that talk sht about Grade 1 Winners are A Holes too(just my opinion.)

By the way I think Grade 1 winners Sutra and Meadow Breeze are mediocre horses too.

[Cajungator26]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion about which horses they like and don't like, but to create a thread devoted to a horse that is supposedly the most overrated horse in the history of horse racing is just ridiculous. I would be happy if he belonged to me... as long as he's bringing home a paycheck (which he did yesterday), that's what matters.

Chuck, let's be honest here... would you complain if Shadwell decided they wanted to put Jazil in your stable? Would you turn them down? LOL

For the record, I think Jazil is a mediocre horse as well, but I sure as hell wouldn't be complaining if I owned one that made me almost a million bucks. I can promise you that.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Everyone is entitled to their opinion about which horses they like and don't like, but to create a thread devoted to a horse that is supposedly the most overrated horse in the history of horse racing is just ridiculous. I would be happy if he belonged to me... as long as he's bringing home a paycheck (which he did yesterday), that's what matters.

Chuck, let's be honest here... would you complain if Shadwell decided they wanted to put Jazil in your stable? Would you turn them down? LOL

For the record, I think Jazil is a mediocre horse as well, but I sure as hell wouldn't be complaining if I owned one that made me almost a million bucks. I can promise you that.

Chuck with a Grade 1 Winner? I think he almost got one with Battle Won.In the 2005 Breeders CUP SPRINT??? No...Uh ,no,not that race....Must have been the race at Del Mar.

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/edito...le.cgi?id=6485

Maybe in 2007

[Gander]

I appreciate your honesty Scuds. Have always resepcted you for that. You dont mince words and you are not a head shaker. That goes a long way in life.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Gander

I appreciate your honesty Scuds. Have always resepcted you for that. You dont mince words and you are not a head shaker. That goes a long way in life.

Well,I would love to have either of these horses.They have both disappointed at low odds,but each have had their nice moments too.

[ManilaRose]

Not sure I'm in the correct thread but I have 25-50K I'd like to spend on a mediocre racing prospect. I'd like to run 2nd in the GI Wood Memorial, then run 4th in the GI Kentucky Derby, and then win the GI Belmont Stakes. Any help would be appreciated in purchasing this type of mediocre animal.

[ArlJim78]

haha, yes you've come to the right place.

we have some sharpies here that can easily spot the type of mediocrity that you are seeking.

[Gander]

They are all opinions from racing fans. None are right, none are wrong. The problem here is people develop certain biases for certain horses and trainers and they sometime can get in the way of constructive arguments.

To quote a line from Scuds, "I have no dog in this battle." I like Corinthian as a racehorse but was not willing to risk a penny on him yesterday. I know a good friend that works for his connections and that performance was a pleasant surprise yesterday to the connections. They thought he would run good but never thought he'd win by 9 going away like that. I have nothing against Jazil or any horse for that matter, but I do strongly agree with Canon that Jazil is a mediocre horse. Would I like to own him (stupid question), yes. But then again I'd love to own Rogue Agent too. I have never been impressed with any of Jazil's performances. But I wont blame any who like the horse or oooh and awe every time the little guy steps on the track.

Now onto more important things, D Money is running tomorrow in the 1st at the Little A. "Here comes D Money!"...with all the enthusiasm John Imbriale can muster up that early in the day.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by ManilaRose

Not sure I'm in the correct thread but I have 25-50K I'd like to spend on a mediocre racing prospect. I'd like to run 2nd in the GI Wood Memorial, then run 4th in the GI Kentucky Derby, and then win the GI Belmont Stakes. Any help would be appreciated in purchasing this type of mediocre animal.

[slotdirt]

If that kind of animal existed for the $25-50k range with regularity, we'd all be horse owners. Find me the last Triple Crown winning horse who was solid at auction as a yearling, weanling, 2YO, or otherwise, that cost less than $50k. Even Funny Cide and Afleet Alex cost more than that.

I understand the post was made tongue and cheek.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ManilaRose

Not sure I'm in the correct thread but I have 25-50K I'd like to spend on a mediocre racing prospect. I'd like to run 2nd in the GI Wood Memorial, then run 4th in the GI Kentucky Derby, and then win the GI Belmont Stakes. Any help would be appreciated in purchasing this type of mediocre animal.

If Jazil was a $25k horse then the story might have a little more appeal.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

jara did move to soon ..fyi

[ManilaRose]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If Jazil was a $25k horse then the story might have a little more appeal.

He's not a mediocre $25k horse....and that was my point. I don't think we're really that far apart of our opinions on him now that you revised it a few posts ago. He's not likely to accomplish what Funny Cide has due to what you stated earlier. They're aren't 1 1/2 mile races for him. Therefore he'll be left to pick up the pieces in the races that are available to him and probably make quite a bit of money in the process. I just don't consider any horse mediocre that picks up checks multiple times in graded events. Is he mediocre within the handicap division? Possibly. The rest of his career will tell.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Chuck with a Grade 1 Winner? I think he almost got one with Battle Won.In the 2005 Breeders CUP SPRINT??? No...Uh ,no,not that race....Must have been the race at Del Mar.

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/edito...le.cgi?id=6485

Maybe in 2007

Scuds has a clue?? Check back in 2015.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Everyone is entitled to their opinion about which horses they like and don't like, but to create a thread devoted to a horse that is supposedly the most overrated horse in the history of horse racing is just ridiculous. I would be happy if he belonged to me... as long as he's bringing home a paycheck (which he did yesterday), that's what matters.

Chuck, let's be honest here... would you complain if Shadwell decided they wanted to put Jazil in your stable? Would you turn them down? LOL

For the record, I think Jazil is a mediocre horse as well, but I sure as hell wouldn't be complaining if I owned one that made me almost a million bucks. I can promise you that.

This has nothing to do with me.

Is Jazil a good horse compared to the average horse? Of course. But is he a good horse compared to past Classic winners? Certainly he would be in the bottom 10% in modern times. Is he a horse that has won 2 races in Feb of his 4 year old year? Yes. Would he have won the Belmont had it really meant anything and Bernardini had run? Most likely no. Could he improve and go on to be a top calibur horse? Maybe but if were to retire right now history would soon look at him as another Sarava, Commendable, or Go and Go who are all forgetable except to the connections.