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Old 02-08-2007, 01:53 AM
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Onto the current, the connections of Jazil say he will use a Aqueduct allowance as a prep for a stakes race, either the donn or the gulfstream park handicap, they said many time that they would have ran jazil and invasor in the donn, and they said the comeback was what they wanted.
So according to the connections everything was going perfectly, so why is he running in another allowance race, a young grade 1 winner, who had this great prep at aqueduct, why not the donn or the gulfstream park handicap, i will tell you why, because the connections know this horse is nothing more then a decent closer who needs a perfect setup to win. I will also say this horse never wins a grade 1 or 2 again in his career, they might find a grade 3 with a bad field for him that he could possibly take down, but thats it.

Im going out there on this post im sure alot of you guys are going to say im crazy and not agree with me, but this is my opinion of the horse, and i just thought i'd share it with everyone. Also i dont know if i mentioned this but i think he has a 0 percent chance to win tommorw.
The GP Handicap is March 3rd. This race looks like a freshener for it.
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Old 02-08-2007, 02:18 AM
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well the connections stated many times aqueduct, then stakes, not second at 1-5 at aqueduct and now another allowance because we know we cant win a stakes. I mean really if you really think about this race makes no since, he shouldn't need another race, and he has raced over this track already.
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Old 02-08-2007, 03:20 AM
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well the connections stated many times aqueduct, then stakes, not second at 1-5 at aqueduct and now another allowance because we know we cant win a stakes. I mean really if you really think about this race makes no since, he shouldn't need another race, and he has raced over this track already.
"He shouldn't need another race"? What does that mean? You know more than the McLaughlin Brothers about what the horse "needs"?

A lot of bluster above to say little. Jazil is an especially neat horse that you cleary have some irrational distate for.. If he never wins any kind of race ever again, he is a classic winner and will likely be a sire of note with his exceptional pedigree.

He's come back from the same injury, a painful one at that, which ended Smarty Jones' career, and it's terrific to have him out running at 4.



About as nicely put together a horse as you'll see.. And has a great temperment as well..
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:08 AM
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The hell are you doing up at 3:20 SLB..
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:21 AM
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The hell are you doing up at 3:20 SLB..
The batlight was on.. an injustice had been done. Jazil was sullied. Had to respond...
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Old 02-08-2007, 07:15 AM
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The batlight was on.. an injustice had been done. Jazil was sullied. Had to respond...
lol!

Also, it's not like Jazil is SO highly esteemed or SO much talked about to justify a post saying he is terribly over-rated. Jazil ran a creditable 4th in the Derby and won a Belmont vs the Derby 2nd place finisher. Nobody is calling him a monster or one for the ages. But I'm very glad to see him back for a 4-yr-old campaign.

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Old 02-08-2007, 07:27 AM
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that's the thing-i haven't really seen anyone hyping the horse-or even rating him at all. he hasn't been around. there is interest in him, which is natural for a classic winner, and i'm also happy to see him back at four. he could turn out to be anything. but i'd say the majority of talk since last spring was about bernardini, invasor and lava man-with maybe a blurb or two about jazil once in a while.
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:13 AM
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Jazil is a deep deep closer type. His type dont win every time they set foot on track. One thing is for certain is that this horse is not a plodder who pass by tired rivals. Jazil has a mean turn of foot that is uncommonly seen day to day. I kind of like that he is getting one more race under him to prep for graded company. This horse will love going long in his next.
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"He shouldn't need another race"? What does that mean? You know more than the McLaughlin Brothers about what the horse "needs"?

A lot of bluster above to say little. Jazil is an especially neat horse that you cleary have some irrational distate for.. If he never wins any kind of race ever again, he is a classic winner and will likely be a sire of note with his exceptional pedigree.

He's come back from the same injury, a painful one at that, which ended Smarty Jones' career, and it's terrific to have him out running at 4.



About as nicely put together a horse as you'll see.. And has a great temperment as well..
Of course if he would win a race once in a while.....
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