Can you really make money in this game ?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't remember what he was saying about the rails. But if he was saying when the rails are out farther speed carries better I think he is right. but I also heard that years ago. I found during the fall Belmont meet when the rail was way out speed was very good, or at least I thought. I remember hitting a nice Amy Tarrant turf firster that outfinished a chalky Mott horse. made the lead and seemed to carry her speed real well. now was it the rail or did the turf wake her up? Who knows but I think the rail thing might have some validity.

I bet Hopes and Dreams in that race. She won back next out at Calder and did OK in a subsequent Gulfstream race. I believe the Amy Tarrant horse came back to run poorly at Gulfstream. She ran like it was more than any rail placement was helping her that day at Belmont.

I will have to ask some people smarter than me about this. Won't be hard to find them.

[blackthroatedwind]

Let me add that for much of the meet so far the rails have been out at Gulfstream and it wasn't until the turf got really hard that speed was particularly holding and there were a number of very deep closers that won.

To me turf racing is very fair and for the most part pace is not nearly the factor it is in dirt racing. That is the reason sound handicapping holds up better. For me, extensive trip handicapping is the most important thing someone can do to be successful betting turf races.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah I agree. Question, with the new turf course at Gulfstream do they ever not have the rail out that far? I can't remember last year.

I thought the Sunshine Millions race was on the inside rail...as was the Canadian. I can't really remember any other days but the rail has been pretty far out.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I thought it was out pretty far for the Canadian because I couldn't tell where the wire was because the rail was out so far.

You are correct...and I was wrong about the Sunshine Millions race also.

Perhaps the rails have always been up. I will try to find out. I guess they will move inside for the second half of the meeting.