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Old 02-04-2007, 12:35 PM
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I pretty much agree with you about the trip and what I was sort of trying to say was that the trouble he had was almost completely mitigated by his unbelievably good trip in every other facet of the race. If you take the ENTIRE trip into context he did not have a particularly bad trip.

Like I said before, people frequently mistake one incident of trouble, without taking everything that happened in the race into account, and declare one trip considerably worse than others. This is a mistake and the main way that most people misevaluate trips. In this case it was the HOY that had this very noticable trouble and that has GREATLY superceded everything else that happened in the race. It shouldn't.....and it doesn't.
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Old 02-04-2007, 12:44 PM
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The way a few people have gone overboard on Invasor's performance yesteday, reminds me when people were calling Bailey's ride on You in the Test Stakes "one of the greatest rides of all-time"

Maybe his ride on her from the 3/8ths pole home was one of the all-time greats, but they seem to forget it wasn't such a good ride for the first half mile.
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Old 02-04-2007, 12:46 PM
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The way a few people have gone overboard on Invasor's performance yesteday, reminds me when people were calling Bailey's ride on You in the Test Stakes "one of the greatest rides of all-time"

Maybe his ride on her from the 3/8ths pole home was one of the all-time greats, but they seem to forget it wasn't such a good ride for the first half mile.

No doubt....that was a pitiful ride by Bailey and if not for utter incompetence she would never have been in the position where it took a herculean effort for her to win. She was tons the best that day.

I imagine that privately Bailey probably had a laugh at the ridiculous false praise he recieved for a ride he supremely butchered.
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Old 02-04-2007, 12:50 PM
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No doubt....that was a pitiful ride by Bailey and if not for utter incompetence she would never have been in the position where it took a herculean effort for her to win. She was tons the best that day.

I imagine that privately Bailey probably had a laugh at the ridiculous false praise he recieved for a ride he supremely butchered.
i miss jerry at gulf....his 1/9s that run for the first 1/4..made many a nice score...........
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Old 02-04-2007, 12:51 PM
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I miss the good riders. Bailey, prior to his last couple years, was a brilliant rider.
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:18 PM
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No doubt....that was a pitiful ride by Bailey and if not for utter incompetence she would never have been in the position where it took a herculean effort for her to win. She was tons the best that day.

I imagine that privately Bailey probably had a laugh at the ridiculous false praise he recieved for a ride he supremely butchered.
Baily have a laugh at being overrated? Did you read his homage to himself a/k/a autobiography? A more self-absorbed creature never walked - even his accounting of his rampant alcoholism and the effect on his marriage is self-absorbed. Although he shares plenty of colorful, "minor" stories, he completely skips his stint at the Ascot race meet riding Dubai Millenium, most likely because their turf press wasn't impressed with him. He twists himself into knots justifying his losing ride on Cigar and choice to chase that suicide ride by Nakatini. His reasoning falls apart because a sensible rider would have known Nakatani's horse was going to back up, not run away with the thing, and with what Baily knew of Cigar's diminishing powers, letting Nakatani self-destruct was the only option. Cigar probably would have lost that day anyhow, per Baily, but his rationale for pressing the issue is absurd.
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:45 PM
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Baily have a laugh at being overrated? Did you read his homage to himself a/k/a autobiography? A more self-absorbed creature never walked - even his accounting of his rampant alcoholism and the effect on his marriage is self-absorbed. Although he shares plenty of colorful, "minor" stories, he completely skips his stint at the Ascot race meet riding Dubai Millenium, most likely because their turf press wasn't impressed with him. He twists himself into knots justifying his losing ride on Cigar and choice to chase that suicide ride by Nakatini. His reasoning falls apart because a sensible rider would have known Nakatani's horse was going to back up, not run away with the thing, and with what Baily knew of Cigar's diminishing powers, letting Nakatani self-destruct was the only option. Cigar probably would have lost that day anyhow, per Baily, but his rationale for pressing the issue is absurd.
You're probably right....he isn't the most self-critical and introspective fellow out there.
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:48 PM
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Think of it this way, had not Bailey given that very bad ride on "You" the first part of the race, we would have not seen that amazing heads bobbing on the wire finish between her and Carson Hollow.

That finish needs to be seen to be appreciated. What a race.
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