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Old 02-04-2007, 01:04 PM
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I agree with what you are saying...but to lplay devil's advocate...look at it from another perspective...the jockey didn't know that the horse he was on was going to test and he fufilled his obligation to ride the horse to the best of his ability...so why should he get screwed out of purse money when he didn't do anything wrong?
it's an interesting debate. on the one hand, you have a jock who rode a winner, and did his job-on the other, had the horse not been aided, would he have won? if you assume he would not have, the jockey wouldn't receive his share, as the horse wouldn't have won. but if you assume the horse would have won, then the jock is screwed...
but if the trainer has to pay out-then in future, maybe he wouldn't aid the horse, and let the best one win-rather than make the attempt, and pay out the jocks portion because of dishonesty or carelessness.


but knowing how unions work, the guild i would assume gets paid a portion of jocks earnings...so if two jocks get that portion, they get double too-right? good for the guild!
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Old 02-04-2007, 01:05 PM
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oh boy...

yeah, a HUGE can of worms opening here....
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:26 PM
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it's an interesting debate. on the one hand, you have a jock who rode a winner, and did his job-on the other, had the horse not been aided, would he have won? if you assume he would not have, the jockey wouldn't receive his share, as the horse wouldn't have won. but if you assume the horse would have won, then the jock is screwed...
but if the trainer has to pay out-then in future, maybe he wouldn't aid the horse, and let the best one win-rather than make the attempt, and pay out the jocks portion because of dishonesty or carelessness.


but knowing how unions work, the guild i would assume gets paid a portion of jocks earnings...so if two jocks get that portion, they get double too-right? good for the guild!
Guild is not a union
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:27 PM
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I would bet more jockeys have cheated by riding overweight and using machines than trainers INTENTIONALLY druged a horse by a wide margin.
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:30 PM
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Guild is not a union
but how is the guild funded?
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Old 02-04-2007, 03:44 PM
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but how is the guild funded?
jocks pay a per mount fee.
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Old 02-04-2007, 05:07 PM
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jocks pay a per mount fee.
thank you. and now i know more than i did this morning.
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