chatain..

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

well there is no way he is a 7 furlong horse...

Here is his sire's form......



You'll notice his only bad race that year coming at Philly Park in August, when he and the Guadalupe Preciado trained Wind Drinker, dueled head-to-head through a supersonic 20 4/5th opening quarter mile--both of them were eased.

Anyway, Forest Wildcat was a sprinter and throws sprinters. The 2nd dam of Chatain was 4-for-12 sprinting, and 0-for-6 routing. The dam of Chatain was a sprinter/miler, and his first couple of siblings have been confirmed sprinters.

I will give him credit for outrunning his pedigree...when he won the one-turn mile stake on opening weekend at GP, holding off a late charge by Sir Greeley. He clearly has outrun his pedigree.

HOWEVER.....I believe you will see the best from him, at seven furlongs. He rates very kindly, and would be very tough against anybody at that distance, with a pace setup.

I could be wrong though.....

[POINTGIVEN1985]

i know who is sire was, and i am just going on what angel penna said and what i saw in the hals hope, i saw a perfect miler, lots of tactical speed and lots of heart. going 1:33 and change 4 start lifetime is a huge performance.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

also... forest wildcat was by storm cat... so going 1 mile up to even 1 1/8 should not be a problem

[POINTGIVEN1985]

he was also basicley unrateable, unlike chatain

[jpops757]

Keyed enty just needs to find out if he is a miler or stay with sprinting. Either way he should make the starting gat for the BC.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

sniper i agree with you, commentator is one of my all time favorite horses

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Certainly was a problem for Forest Wildcat. He wouldn't have gotten a mile if they gave him a head start. Pedigree doesn't always translate on the race track.

Well....he never ran beyond seven furlongs in his 20 race career---but like you said, he gave every indication he couldn't see out that distance.

I agree with you that pedigrees don't always translate....

However, just because a trainer thinks a horse is best suited to a particular distance...doesn't always mean they are...and I think you'll agree with that as well.

Sir Greeley, who's a confirmed sprinter/miler type, just missed running him down in the late stages of that mile race....I'd love to see this horse going 7/8ths, with a setup in front of him.

[cakes44]

Sun King will be a handful in the dirt mile, assuming he makes it. You know that race is going to have some serious pace every year.