Turfway

Fot those who complain about Poly at Turfway, look at the numbers between dirt and Poly. The numbers aren't comparable. And I was one that voted to cancel the racing over the weekend at Turfway and I even had a horse entered for today. There much more than goes into cancelling a card that what people think. I am not blinded and don't think the track condition didn't play into my thought process, but for the most part it is because of the possibility of dangerous winds and cold temps. Better safe than sorry. Tons of money is lost when a trainer ships a horse and then the card is cancelled. Also it costs employees time when they are sent home and the operating costs go through the roof when you cancel a card mid-way.

[The Bid]

The three horses vanned off had nothing to do with the cancel then?

Did the three horses last night get vanned off because of high winds, or because it was too cold?

Originally Posted by The Bid

The three horses vanned off had nothing to do with the cancel then?

Did the three horses vanned off get vanned because of high winds or because it was too cold?

Not in my mind. But perhaps that played into the decions of others to vote to cancel the card for the weekend. Believe me, Turfway has a long way to go to make the surface better--but I strongly believe what they have now is better than dirt with all the problems they are experiencing. People make not like a synthetic surface, but the numbers are better than it was when there was dirt.

[The Bid]

Tell that to the 18 guys who put horses down in the worst December on record. Tell that to the 3 guys who vanned off last night.

How about the guys at Woodbine? BRUTAL

How about my babies that breezed up there and came back to CDT limping around. Get real man, stop pimping that ****. Its far from being the surface you guys want it to be.

Ive heard a steady retraction.....instead of being a great surface, its "better than what they had" Listen, you could run them out on 71 and it would have been better than what they had. Its hardly held up to what it is supposed to be, not even close.

Originally Posted by The Bid

Tell that to the 18 guys who put horses down in the worst December on record. Tell that to the 3 guys who vanned off last night.

How about the guys at Woodbine? BRUTAL

How about my babies that breezed up there and came back to CDT limping around. Get real man, stop pimping that ****. Its far from being the surface you guys want it to be.

Ive heard a steady retraction.....instead of being a great surface, its "better than what they had" Listen, you could run them out on 71 and it would have been better than what they had. Its hardly held up to what it is supposed to be, not even close.

Well I am one who have had 2 break down on the surface. And I have spoken to the ones that have had ones breakdown too. I hear your frustration and I hear theirs and mine. But again, compared to the dirt Turfway did have, Poly is better.

[Danzig]

but is poly better than a good dirt surface?

depends on who you ask.

i really think the tracks with turf went to poly so they would keep full fields, and not lose handle. how much of the increased handle is because turfers didn't scratch at those tracks when it was wet????

Originally Posted by Danzig188

but is poly better than a good dirt surface?

depends on who you ask.

i really think the tracks with turf went to poly so they would keep full fields, and not lose handle. how much of the increased handle is because turfers didn't scratch at those tracks when it was wet????

No I do not believe Poly is better than a good dirt track. But there is nothing wrong in trying something different. Turfway had 20 plus years to perfect the dirt surface and they couldnt. Why not give Poly 20 years????

[The Bid]

Polytrack has never been about the horses. If it were about the horses they would have tested it extensively before installing it. That track was never tested in extreme cold, it was never tested period. Just because it handles some rain in England, doesnt make it "all weather" Of course as soon as Keeneland got involved it had credibility. Before that there were a lot of questions, but with an industry leader involved it was the greatest thing ever.

Any buffoon can see that track hasnt lived up to expectations. Whether you are pro poly, or anti poly, or really dont give a rats ass, you can tell the track isnt as advertised.

They need to address the issues instead of doing a song and dance. Its cold in Kentucky in February, apparnelty too cold to run through the weekend.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Polytrack has never been about the horses. If it were about the horses they would have tested it extensively before installing it. That track was never tested in extreme cold, it was never tested period. Just because it handles some rain in England, doesnt make it "all weather" Of course as soon as Keeneland got involved it had credibility. Before that there were a lot of questions, but with an industry leader involved it was the greatest thing ever.

Any buffoon can see that track hasnt lived up to expectations. Whether you are pro poly, or anti poly, or really dont give a rats ass, you can tell the track isnt as advertised.

They need to address the issues instead of doing a song and dance. Its cold in Kentucky in February, apparnelty too cold to run through the weekend.

i am, and have been, anti poly. don't see a valid reason to change my mind at this time.