Turfway Cancel

[The Bid]

That yeah we paid millions was a mythical turfway response, read the entire post.

Jim, It wasnt a bad month, it was the worst December ever. The jocks wouldnt ride the card today and truth be told they have been bitching about the track for a while now. The kickback, its uneven, now its freezing. Listen the track was supposed to have NO UPKEEP, theyve tore the top off, tried to level it, all while telling the general public its great. Seriously, is this surface as advertised? I dont think so, not even close.

[smartyalex]

Having grown up in Arkansas and now living in Louisville, I can say that with the wind chill this is honestly the coldest day I have ever experienced!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by smartyalex

Having grown up in Arkansas and now living in Louisville, I can say that with the wind chill this is honestly the coldest day I have ever experienced!

I feel for you! I can't even imagine... I'm bitching about the temps being in the 30's here in FL.

[todko]

Racing needs to hire a firm with a background in materials engineering/science to develop artificial tracks. DuPont might be one to start looking at.

Poly, Cushion, you name it came from people like Michael Dickinson and Martin Collins. Granted they may be horsemen -- but they are not engineers and scientists. The input of horsemen is vital -- but let the engineers and scientists formulate, develop, and test the product.

Poly may indeed work well for walks, gallops, and even training tracks. For racing it is certainly having serious problems.

[ManilaRose]

Was it not 17 degrees when the first 2 races were run? It's not like it's never been that temperature at Turfway before. If it was to cold after the 2nd it was to cold before the 1st. This does sound a bit fishy.

i'm 150 miles west and the wind is cuttin ass. The jet stream goes right through the cincy area so it's probably at least 5 degrees cooler. No way i'd ride a horse in these conditions.

[The Bid]

Booey, I sold off almost all I had to make good on that debt and still cant do it.

Ill be at Turfway Park on the 10th, ask Wolfgang to direct you to me. I will take care of you.

[The Bid]

Im kidding Booey. I may be able to scrape together a hundred between now and the 10th. See you then

[SCUDSBROTHER]

At Golden Gate they had breakdowns in both the 7th and 8th races today.If this synthetic at Turfway isn't what they want,then fine,but I don't understand where dirt is in any way a better option. Get a better synthetic.

[sumitas]

As Arl Jim said, the ship has sailed. Let's improve the synthetics, clamp down on the drugs and shoes, that's the future. And the future is now.

[Danzig]

very unhappy to read the CHRB will not be enforcing their toe grab rule. toe grabs in the opinion of many is a cause of problems with horses. why make a rule and then not enforce?
oh...wait...we are talking about cali, aren't we?

[todko]

Originally Posted by sumitas

As Arl Jim said, the ship has sailed. Let's improve the synthetics, clamp down on the drugs and shoes, that's the future. And the future is now.

The ship has sailed?

The Titanic sailed too -- briefly. Until it hit a big chunk of frozen poly and sank.

I just checked as to why Turfway cancelled. Turfway cancelled because of feedback from the jocks regarding the cold temps on their body. Jocks said that the surface was OK but the cold was too much for them and their body. I was in Cleveland over the weekend and the cold was brutal.

[The Bid]

Until it hit Spandex, old blownout tires, and someones old rug a cat pissed on

[todko]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I just checked as to why Turfway cancelled. Turfway cancelled because of feedback from the jocks regarding the cold temps on their body. Jocks said that the surface was OK but the cold was too much for them and their body. I was in Cleveland over the weekend and the cold was brutal.

Glad you got that all cleared up for us Euro .

BTW, did you notice the article from past thread? JJP posted this:

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky...g/16549702.htm

[The Bid]

Nice article Todko

The worst December on record, seems like the track is holding up well.

Lucky we have had the most mild winter I can remember

Originally Posted by todko

Glad you got that all cleared up for us Euro .

BTW, did you notice the article from past thread? JJP posted this:

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky...g/16549702.htm

I read that article earlier. I will be the first to say that I am not happy with the surface at Turfway. It is entirely too fast. The thing about Poly is that when it is cold, the fibers get hard and fast. Just like anything else that freezes. The challenge that tracks is going to have is to keep the surface warm enough so the track isnt playing so fast. They have more and more work to do. But, we have the surface down at good tracks where the business can learn what to do and what not to do. We need testing tracks and Turfway is a perfect track to conduct that testing.

[todko]

Originally Posted by ManilaRose

Was it not 17 degrees when the first 2 races were run? It's not like it's never been that temperature at Turfway before. If it was to cold after the 2nd it was to cold before the 1st. This does sound a bit fishy.

They are having a very hard time controlling it. The staff at TP said so in not so many words.

Tough for the 'capper too as they keep jacking with the track (the same track that was supposed to be non-maintenance). Looks like they are adding sand at times. The staff said they can adjust the wax ratio too. The running times can vary tremendously from day to day.

The clumps of poly can fly a long way and they hit with quite an impact. I've seen horses recoil and climb when pounded in the nose with that stuff. And I've seen jockeys visibly shaken when they get hit with it. It's a mess.