Non-winners of an Eclipse or Championship

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I've searched throughout my posts and don't see where I ever said those were the ONLY quality tests. I said they were the BIGGEST for those horses. Do u dispute that?

Accurately responding to posts is not a strongsuit of that poster.

Misrepresenting what you have posted, however, is.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Accurately responding to posts is not a strongsuit of that poster.

Misrepresenting what you have posted, however, is.

First of all you can eat my shorts. Second, explain to me where I am inaccurate or have misrepresented? I state facts and ask questions. Because you or others may not like the conclusions that those facts and questions may lead you to is not an excuse to attack my character.

The issue raised by someone other than me is whether Smarty Jones and Afleet Alex are "way overrated." So I have raised some other horses who failed at major races during their juvenile or three year old season and ask if you feel that they are similarly overrated? Smarty Jones was essentially Majestic Prince of this generation record-wise so he (MP) must be overrated, too? It's fair game to ask questions such as this without impugning me for asking them. Unless you are all so wise and knowledgeable that your opinions cannot be challenged. If so, then you'd have done great during the middle ages when the earth was considered to be both flat and the center of the universe. Ta Ta.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by FairPlay

First of all you can eat my shorts. Second, explain to me where I am inaccurate or have misrepresented? I state facts and ask questions. Because you or others may not like the conclusions that those facts and questions may lead you to is not an excuse to attack my character.

The issue raised by someone other than me is whether Smarty Jones and Afleet Alex are "way overrated." So I have raised some other horses who failed at major races during their juvenile or three year old season and ask if you feel that they are similarly overrated? Smarty Jones was essentially Majestic Prince of this generation record-wise so he (MP) must be overrated, too? It's fair game to ask questions such as this without impugning me for asking them. Unless you are all so wise and knowledgeable that your opinions cannot be challenged. If so, then you'd have done great during the middle ages when the earth was considered to be both flat and the center of the universe. Ta Ta.

When you make a post like this.....

Originally Posted by FairPlay

"ridiculoulsy overrrated Not so aFleet Alex"? Let's see, he goes to his knees at the top of the stretch in the Preakness and finds a way to win and then puts up the fastest final 1/4 in the Belmont Stakes since Arts and Letters. Yeah, he sucked.

You join the list of posters that skew people's words to fit their own agendas. I never said Afleet Alex " sucked ", nor did I imply it, but to further your agenda you suggested I did.

You have furthered your postition of poster to be ignored with your continued smart azz responses like the most recent one. For a poster with only a handful of posts you have hardly left anyone wanting more.

The sandbox is full of your ilk....and nobody is playing with you there either.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

When you make a post like this.....



You join the list of posters that skew people's words to fit their own agendas. I never said Afleet Alex " sucked ", nor did I imply it, but to further your agenda you suggested I did.

You have furthered your postition of poster to be ignored with your continued smart azz responses like the most recent one. For a poster with only a handful of posts you have hardly left anyone wanting more.

The sandbox is full of your ilk....and nobody is playing with you there either.

If you're paranoid and read meanings into my posts, then the issue is with you, not with me. I am the only person who raised the "suck" word to make a sarcastic point about Alex's peformance on the track. Because you associate that phrase with your assessment of Alex's career is your problem and probably a function of your own egocentricity.

And to answer your questions: The Kentucky Derby and BC Juvenile should not be the biggest indicators of a horse's career performance. In my view those are indicators that are easily rebutted. Would any one here take Wilko and Giacomo over Afleet Alex as racehorses during the course of their racing careers? Cigar and John Henry never raced in a juvenile race of meaning or the Triple Crown and yet they're great horses. Holy Bull flopped in the Derby and he was a great horse. People here have short memories about the impact of both Smarty Jones and Afleet Alex: Smarty Jones was the first horse to make the cover of Sports Illustrated in a generation and Alex was a serious candidate for SI's Sportsman of the Year Award. So I will end sarcastically: "Yeah, they were real overrated." And look who's casting stones about twisting their words: He who says "Not so aFleet Alex." What a bunch of b.s you're cultivating.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by FairPlay

If you're paranoid and read meanings into my posts, then the issue is with you, not with me. I am the only person who raised the "suck" word to make a sarcastic point about Alex's peformance on the track. Because you associate that phrase with your assessment of Alex's career is your problem and probably a function of your own egocentricity.

And to answer your questions: The Kentucky Derby and BC Juvenile should not be the biggest indicators of a horse's career performance. In my view those are indicators that are easily rebutted. Would any one here take Wilko and Giacomo over Afleet Alex as racehorses during the course of their racing careers? Cigar and John Henry never raced in a juvenile race of meaning or the Triple Crown and yet they're great horses. Holy Bull flopped in the Derby and he was a great horse. People here have short memories about the impact of both Smarty Jones and Afleet Alex: Smarty Jones was the first horse to make the cover of Sports Illustrated in a generation and Alex was a serious candidate for SI's Sportsman of the Year Award. So I will end sarcastically: "Yeah, they were real overrated."

I never said anything about the Kentucky Derby or BC Juvenile in this thread regarding Smarty Jones or Afleet Alex so I really have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry if when someone disagrees with you it throws you into such a frenzy that you can't even differentiate among posters and are forced to make pathetic character judgements.

And furthermore, I really don't use Sports Illustrated as my guide to whether or not a horse is talented. But, hey, to each his own.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I never said anything about the Kentucky Derby or BC Juvenile in this thread regarding Smarty Jones or Afleet Alex so I really have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry if when someone disagrees with you it throws you into such a frenzy that you can't even differentiate among posters and are forced to make pathetic character judgements.

And furthermore, I really don't use Sports Illustrated as my guide to whether or not a horse is talented. But, hey, to each his own.

You were piling on with that poster so I presume that you endorse everthing that was said therein. Good to see that you're distancing yourself. Maybe you should distance yourself from the "Not so aFleet Alex" genius statement?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by FairPlay

You were piling on with that poster so I presume that you endorse everthing that was said therein. Good to see that you're distancing yourself. Maybe you should distance yourself from the "Not so aFleet Alex" genius statement?

More distortion I see. Much appreciated.