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Old 01-25-2007, 04:05 PM
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Looking back at what I did I made a huge error in evaluating Antifreezette as my single and then putting two other horses in as B choices in that race. By doing that I offset the purpose of singling the horse and wasted almost 2/3rds of my budget in the process. I still wouldn't have hit but would have at least had 4 out of 6. So the important lesson I take out of this is that if you want to single a horse using the A/B/C method you don't just single him as an A, you have to also use no one as a B. That is why I enjoy doing things like this with fake money.
Wise words, my friend, wise words. I can see you got something out of this contest, which was the whole purpose of it as far as I'm concerned. The A/B/C method really stratifies your opinions better because let's say you did like 2 others in there just a little bit, you could use them as a C and maybe have 10% of your capital on them, still emphasizing your key single but just in case you have the best day of your life otherwise you have a little extra coverage there.

Now you can see why I want to put my head through a window when a horse like Appealing Zophie busts me out of a huge P6. Certainly logical but you gotta make a stand somewhere (unless you have an unlimited bankroll), sadly my strongest opinion that day was the one that cost me.
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Old 01-25-2007, 04:15 PM
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Wise words, my friend, wise words. I can see you got something out of this contest, which was the whole purpose of it as far as I'm concerned. The A/B/C method really stratifies your opinions better because let's say you did like 2 others in there just a little bit, you could use them as a C and maybe have 10% of your capital on them, still emphasizing your key single but just in case you have the best day of your life otherwise you have a little extra coverage there.

Now you can see why I want to put my head through a window when a horse like Appealing Zophie busts me out of a huge P6. Certainly logical but you gotta make a stand somewhere (unless you have an unlimited bankroll), sadly my strongest opinion that day was the one that cost me.
Yeah, definitely. Just by moving those two horses down from B in the 6th would have brought three horses up to my B list of which two were the winners of the last two legs. It also would have allowed me to go all in the 4th and 7th races for the C list and add Paul's Hope in the 5th along with one or two others. I still would have only had 1 A, 3 Bs, and 2 Cs win but it would have been a lot more effective use of the ticket than the $1400 I wasted on tickets using those two horses as B's in the 6th. I hope we do another one of these contests even if there aren't prizes associated. It can definitely be a learning experience.
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Old 01-25-2007, 04:15 PM
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I can totally understand you not wanting to dedicate time to this, really, but by the same token doesn't that then lessen the value of your post-Pick-6 judgements?

Absolutely. I wont respond to pick 6 talk anymore unless I play one. I have only been close to hitting 1 significant pick 6 in my life and that one didnt work out.

Now you can see why I want to put my head through a window when a horse like Appealing Zophie busts me out of a huge P6. Certainly logical but you gotta make a stand somewhere (unless you have an unlimited bankroll), sadly my strongest opinion that day was the one that cost me.

Last weekend of the meet last year at Toga if I am not mistaken. This was the horse Oracle was very high on and got a lot of people on. I was already invested in pick 4's and did not use Zophie either so I can understand how you feel. I knew this horse would be trouble when it opened up taking loads of money.
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Old 01-25-2007, 04:42 PM
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I can totally understand you not wanting to dedicate time to this, really, but by the same token doesn't that then lessen the value of your post-Pick-6 judgements?

Absolutely. I wont respond to pick 6 talk anymore unless I play one. I have only been close to hitting 1 significant pick 6 in my life and that one didnt work out.

Now you can see why I want to put my head through a window when a horse like Appealing Zophie busts me out of a huge P6. Certainly logical but you gotta make a stand somewhere (unless you have an unlimited bankroll), sadly my strongest opinion that day was the one that cost me.

Last weekend of the meet last year at Toga if I am not mistaken. This was the horse Oracle was very high on and got a lot of people on. I was already invested in pick 4's and did not use Zophie either so I can understand how you feel. I knew this horse would be trouble when it opened up taking loads of money.
That was it... knew I just needed to get through that leg and had decent coverage in the last. Paid $65k with Appealing Zophie, no less than half that with the 2 I had (2nd and 3rd finishers).
At least it wasn't close.
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Old 01-25-2007, 04:43 PM
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I remember having a good day that particular day because I hit Hither Lane earlier in the card. But I dumped some money back on a Smoke Glacken horse Chantal Sutherland rode in the very last race. She gave that horse a dreadful ride and made a very premature wide move on the far turn.
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