CONTEST ENTRIES: SA Carryover

[Sightseek]

Thank you to the people who posted what they saw in Paul's Hope.

Paul's Hope was not claimed, but Wage a Kiss and Ringmaster were.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

The biggest obstacle in playing Paul's Hope was simply being able to play a horse trained by Hector Palma.Best I can tell,Palma won 1 maiden claiming race in 47 attempts in 2006-2007(2%.)People can b.s. all they want,but this would of had to be a spread race for you(and you would have to include him in a spread.)Talking endlessly (about this rat) is the punishment deemed upon us by one Corey Nakatani.His horse broke great ,but he took back,and Espinoza said thank you,thank you,and set a comfortable 22'1,and a 45'3(as Gryder's horse collapses while keeping Nakatani down inside.) Corey is just not riding with confidence,and Espinoza is.I have no doubt that if you swap riders,Peace Accord presses that horse,and draws off.Nakatani is giving a workman-like 90% effort out there,and when somebody is riding well,you will have trouble running them down(if you wait while they coast on 22'1 ,45'3.)If somebody else gets this mount,you will see this.The horse will either press,or make a big middle move.The new rider will not wait until the stretch to move(while somebody else has fun coasting up front.)

[Gander]

Thank you to the people who posted what they saw in Paul's Hope.

With all due respect its easy to analyze a race after its over. There are very few horses that win that you cant write an essay of why you could have used him or her after the fact. Pretty much useless info now unless you have a working time machine.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

GANDER,I want to know how(on a $100 ticket)Barry Abrams got to the final leg with that Highly Gallant's effort determining whether he gets 97k.That's what I want to know.If he zigs instead of zags,then the man has 405k for $100.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

GANDER,I want to know how(on a $100 ticket)Barry Abrams got to the final leg with that Highly Gallant's effort determining whether he gets 97k.That's what I want to know.If he zigs instead of zags,then the man has 405k for $100.

If he was real high on Moogie then a 5X1X5X1X2X1 ticket wouldn't seem all that implausible to come up with the winners. He also could have gone 2 deep in the second leg and singled Singalong in the 7th.

It's easier after the fact for sure, but I wouldn't take away from the due diligence put in by those that came up with that horse in their tickets... I mean, the selections are out there for all to see... nobody singled him as far as I know. I included him with 4 others because I thought he was live. And, as BTW said, one of the keys to play multi-race wagers is figuring out where you have definite opinions of how a race will turn out and also figuring out where you will do well just to survive. IMO, this was one of the latter.

For those that wanted the rationale behind selecting Paul's Hope, they got it....there were many reasons to not take the horse but I felt the reasons to include him were compelling enough.

[Gander]

Fair enough but if you are building $2,000 tickets, there is plenty of room to include horses like Pauls Hope. Its one thing playing in a make believe contest with monopoly money, but its quite another to play a ticket using your own real money (not being backed by a man with deep pockets).

I could easily get on here and give 3 reasons why I loved and profited from a Mark Shuman horse on Saturday at Laurel, but the fact that I didnt post it before the race negates any reason for posting it now.

There is this guy I hang with at the track who I love dearly, but who has this annoying habit of coming up to me after every race that produces a tough to come up with winner, and tells me why the horse should have been played. Just want you want to hear after blendering the last of your cash and about set to make the 1st of many trips to the atm machine.

[Gander]

GANDER,I want to know how(on a $100 ticket)Barry Abrams got to the final leg with that Highly Gallant's effort determining whether he gets 97k.That's what I want to know.If he zigs instead of zags,then the man has 405k for $100.

Ouch. I often zig when I should have zagged, so I can imagine how he feels.
I made a bad decision on Saturday at Gulfstream, one that cost me 3 grand. I used Malibu Mint instead of using Any Limit. It was a good day for me at the track because of a race at Laurel but it still stung.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Gander

Fair enough but if you are building $2,000 tickets, there is plenty of room to include horses like Pauls Hope. Its one thing playing in a make believe contest with monopoly money, but its quite another to play a ticket using your own real money (not being backed by a man with deep pockets).

I don't agree. $2000 does not go very far on a card like yesterdays and I think that was shown pretty clearly. Getting that horse on your ticket was far from easy and that was clear from the results yesterday. Perhaps if you had actually spent a few minutes trying to construct a play ( instead of writing down numbers ) you would have seen how little ground you can cover with under $2500.

I think most people took the contest very seriously and played similarly to a " real money " situation...if they had the real money to play with.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Gander

Thank you to the people who posted what they saw in Paul's Hope.

With all due respect its easy to analyze a race after its over. There are very few horses that win that you cant write an essay of why you could have used him or her after the fact. Pretty much useless info now unless you have a working time machine.

Maybe so, but it is always helpful when you are trying to learn to hear and/or read from as many people as possible. We're all going to view things differently and if someone brings up a point that I had missed, I'll try to keep that in my mind when handicapping in the future.