Santa Anita Race 7 DQ

[GPK]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

LOL....He is dreaming about nightgolfing later in the evening.Kev,I bet you he does do that stuff.He is pretty good(I hear,and saw him play Schrupp on TVG.)SCHRUPP can't play at all though,and Nak was LAUGHING AT HIM.

I do alot of daydreaming, but it aint about night golf...God knows I get enough of that throughout the day.

[JudyGold]

Whats up with the 1st race at SA watch the head on replay. I was at the track and saw the two horses comes together with 1/16 of a mile to go.
Now just because it is baffert/baffert they let it go. Now before you go Jim Mora (classic "playoffs" rant)on me I think it was a 40/60 call to dq the horse but it still deserved a look.

[Left Bank]

Here is my thought on it all,and that is that CALIFORNIA RACING SUCKS!!!! If another horse even LOOKS at another horse out there,they take him down.The stewards out there are a bunch of CLOWNS,Just look at who some of them are[one is a TVG host}They have no consistency in their decisionmaking, and are totally influenced by the politics of the game out there.I NEVER wager on any of these tracks,due to what happened not only yesterday,but also in the past.Crappy racing,Period.This is just my opinion.

[Honu]

Failure to maintain a straight course and impedeing another horses forward progress are 2 reasons that the winner came down. Pretty simple.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Honu

Failure to maintain a straight course and impedeing another horses forward progress are 2 reasons that the winner came down. Pretty simple.

Honu,I am fine with taking this horse down,but they need to do the same with all the other incidents like this(they do not....they call them minor,or they say it didn't change the outcome of the race.)This is not done consistently at all.Right away,the guys on T.V. said they would leave it alone.Now exactly why would they say that??Well,it's because they see this situation left alone quite often.They need to start being consistent.Sometimes they say the best horse won,and they let this go(dead horse was fouled etc.)Rarely, they do what they did yesterday(take down the obviously best horse,because that horse fouled a horse who was gunna come 4th-7th.)I think they are highly subjective,and need to take one of these options,and stick to it.Either you are highly interested in who the best horse was(and overlook a foul that didn't cost somebody a top 3 placing,)or you call any foul(regardless of who the best horse in the race was.)Do one or the other.They aren't doing one or the other.They are doing both.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Honu,I am fine with taking this horse down,but they need to do the same with all the other incidents like this(they do not....they call them minor,or they say it didn't change the outcome of the race.)This is not done consistently at all.Right away,the guys on T.V. said they would leave it alone.Now exactly why would they say that??Well,it's because they see this situation left alone quite often.They need to start being consistent.Sometimes they say the best horse won,and they let this go(dead horse was fouled etc.)Rarely, they do what they did yesterday(take down the obviously best horse,because that horse fouled a horse who was gunna come 4th-7th.)I think they are highly subjective,and need to take one of these options,and stick to it.Either you are highly interested in who the best horse was(an overlook a foul that didn't cost somebody a top 3 placing,)or you call any foul(regardless of who the best horse in the race was.)Do one or the other.They aren't doing one or the other.They are doing both.

One of the announcers though freely admitted he never wants them to take a horse down. Not saying that it was the right call, I think it could have gone either way, but that announcer not wanting him to come down shouldn't really be used to build your case.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I also am tired of them talking to the jocks involved.You have such a difference in the ability to b.s. in the situation.Guys like Bailey and Gomez seem to be able to talk stewards into anything.I rarely see some riders get any break at all from the stewards.For instance,when Espinoza is the one who fouls,I rarely see that guy get out of it.They really seem to despise that guy.Again,all subjective stuff(language/argumentative skills etc.)

[Honu]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Honu,I am fine with taking this horse down,but they need to do the same with all the other incidents like this(they do not....they call them minor,or they say it didn't change the outcome of the race.)This is not done consistently at all.Right away,the guys on T.V. said they would leave it alone.Now exactly why would they say that??Well,it's because they see this situation left alone quite often.They need to start being consistent.Sometimes they say the best horse won,and they let this go(dead horse was fouled etc.)Rarely, they do what they did yesterday(take down the obviously best horse,because that horse fouled a horse who was gunna come 4th-7th.)I think they are highly subjective,and need to take one of these options,and stick to it.Either you are highly interested in who the best horse was(an overlook a foul that didn't cost somebody a top 3 placing,)or you call any foul(regardless of who the best horse in the race was.)Do one or the other.They aren't doing one or the other.They are doing both.

I understand your frustration.

The human element will never change. Hell Zito was pissed 2 weeks ago at gulfstream,but... Happens all the time in Life period. It is what it is. Sometimes we're left to suck on it. Does not make it right but its been that way for along time......

[SCUDSBROTHER]

There is some bad blood etc, between one of the stewards,and Paasch.So much so that the steward in question looked down to see how Paasch reacted when it was announced that the horse was coming down.He told Paasch that he remembered him from 20 years earlier(when Paasch had an argument with a security guard.)This thing has gotten pretty ugly.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by Honu

Failure to maintain a straight course and impedeing another horses forward progress are 2 reasons that the winner came down. Pretty simple.

The horse he impeded was going BACKWARDS and was in no way going to affect the outcome of the race!!

[Rudeboyelvis]

agreed that the 7 washed out. The fact that the 8 got into the 6 which was glareing from the rear view and which subsequently caused the incident, is inexcusible. Not only did the ignore the facts, they awarded the perp with a win. My guess is that they dropped the best horse out of the money because they didn't want to deal explaining a 4 mil carryover.

For whatever logic that my bring....Clearly big money had a voice in it...

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

agreed that the 7 washed out. The fact that the 8 got into the 6 which was glareing from the rear view and which subsequently caused the incident, is inexcusible. Not only did the ignore the facts, they awarded the perp with a win. My guess is that they dropped the best horse out of the money because they didn't want to deal explaining a 4 mil carryover.

For whatever logic that my bring....Clearly big money had a voice in it...

The way i'm reading this is that you're insinuating the stewards took $$$. Absolutely ridiculous.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

agreed that the 7 washed out. The fact that the 8 got into the 6 which was glareing from the rear view and which subsequently caused the incident, is inexcusible. Not only did the ignore the facts, they awarded the perp with a win. My guess is that they dropped the best horse out of the money because they didn't want to deal explaining a 4 mil carryover.

For whatever logic that my bring....Clearly big money had a voice in it...

Believe it or not........no carryover,even if the longshot had stayed up.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

The horse he impeded was going BACKWARDS and was in no way going to affect the outcome of the race!!

So because the horse was slowing down that gives anyone in the field the right to take his running room away, or just drop over and shut him off ? , because well he was done anyway. Nope I dont subscribe to that , Id be a real biatch if I were in the steward stands.