Perfect Drift

Originally Posted by whorstman

GD it! I was licking my chops at that race, he was the sleeper of all sleepers, got the pace senerio he wanted, and well, I guess that's the breaks. He did try and work his way around and was still tryin'.

It never ceases to amaze me how stupid peopel are. If a big favorite has a trip like that people fall all over themselves to say that the horse would have won. If a 13-1 gets that trip and you point it out to someone they say "he wasnt gonna win anyway". Its truly amazing. As if the odds the horse went off at means anything whatsoveer when the evidence is in front of your eyes. Don't even bother trying to convince anyone he was gonna win, despite the nightnmare journey and the fact that he had run at the end, they will just tell you he wasn't gonna win anyway.

[Scurlogue Champ]

I think Wiggins sucks....

for the record

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by moodwalker

I think Wiggins sucks....

for the record

Why does he suck? Not enough wins?

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Why does he suck? Not enough wins?

I was just playing around, I don't care either way about Wiggins.

[whorstman]

Originally Posted by moodwalker

I think Wiggins sucks....

for the record

Well, I think you suck.....

for the record.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by whorstman

Well, I think you suck.....

for the record.

Your face...

Originally Posted by moodwalker

I think Wiggins sucks....

for the record

Needs Ill-breds or allowance company...not graded stakes type at a big circuit..

[JJP]

He can definitely handle stakes quality at CD; he just can't at the Grade 1 level.

[Gander]

Mike, I thought I read in another post where you liked Buzzards Bay to win this. You wrote something to the effect of "Buzzards Bay draws clear by 5".
And you keyed Wiggins? Did you change your mind?

Originally Posted by Gander

Mike, I thought I read in another post where you liked Buzzards Bay to win this. You wrote something to the effect of "Buzzards Bay draws clear by 5".
And you keyed Wiggins? Did you change your mind?

Yeah Tim I did, for the same reason I ended up keying Nothing But Fun rather than play Spun Sugar. On TG once I saw them, Buzzard had run a HUGE top at Oak, much bigger then expected. He ran a -4 and had never run anything near that before, he was a textbook bounce. WIth Spun, she had run a -1 1/4 which has 41/2 points better than anything she had previously run. Which also made her a bounce. Like I said, all weekend long I keyed against heavy favorites who lost, but was not able to nail the winner. Its very frustrating when that happens, to be in the right Church but the wrong pew. I never make final decisions until I see the numbers, late scratches, and track bias or lack of one. In Buzzards case the minute I saw the numbers I went WHOA!! and tossed him. Lot of good it did me.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Yeah Tim I did, for the same reason I ended up keying Nothing But Fun rather than play Spun Sugar. On TG once I saw them, Buzzard had run a HUGE top at Oak, much bigger then expected. He ran a -4 and had never run anything near that before, he was a textbook bounce. WIth Spun, she had run a -1 1/4 which has 41/2 points better than anything she had previously run. Which also made her a bounce. Like I said, all weekend long I keyed against heavy favorites who lost, but was not able to nail the winner. Its very frustrating when that happens, to be in the right Church but the wrong pew. I never make final decisions until I see the numbers, late scratches, and track bias or lack of one. In Buzzards case the minute I saw the numbers I went WHOA!! and tossed him. Lot of good it did me.

Oracle, How long between races do you think a horse needs before you throw out the bounce effect and is Buzzards Bay a Front runner type horse?

[SentToStud]

I'd sure like to own a hanger like PErfect Drift! Lifetime earnngs over $4 million. Can't think of another North American horse in training with higher earnings.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by oracle80

It never ceases to amaze me how stupid peopel are. If a big favorite has a trip like that people fall all over themselves to say that the horse would have won. If a 13-1 gets that trip and you point it out to someone they say "he wasnt gonna win anyway". Its truly amazing. As if the odds the horse went off at means anything whatsoveer when the evidence is in front of your eyes. Don't even bother trying to convince anyone he was gonna win, despite the nightnmare journey and the fact that he had run at the end, they will just tell you he wasn't gonna win anyway.

You guys are both right, he could have won. I just looked at the replay. Previously I hadn't noticed his trip. Like always Bejarano had a lot saved for the stretch but had the walls close in on him.
Did anyone actually say he wouldn't have won? It looks like everyone is focused on PD or Seek Gold.

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

You guys are both right, he could have won. I just looked at the replay. Previously I hadn't noticed his trip. Like always Bejarano had a lot saved for the stretch but had the walls close in on him.
Did anyone actually say he wouldn't have won? It looks like everyone is focused on PD or Seek Gold.

ArlJim do you see what I mean now? I have been furious and stewing all weekend long over that horrific beat and didn't bother to mention it here because I knew noone would care.
He would have won, I very much believe that. But you see? If he had been a horse who took money then people would have noticed. Instead onlt people who wagered on him and were actually paying attention noticed. yeah, an idiot friend of mine said he wouldnt have won, when I asked why, his answer was that he wasnt good enough to beat those. So I replied that Seek Gold was? Most people just do no not watch races. I mean even on this thread people have claimed that the jock eased up on Drift. Right, sure, he hit him 20 times with the stick and rode like a tasmanian devil all teh way to the wire, yeah, he eased up, ok sure.

[cal828]

A hanger is it? What a neat package to sum the Drift up in. I'm just glad he slowed down, for whatever reason, so those "dogs" like Ghostzapper, Roses in May, Rockhardten and War Emblem could win!!! Too bad he didn't show the same respect to Mineshaft.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by oracle80

ArlJim do you see what I mean now? I have been furious and stewing all weekend long over that horrific beat and didn't bother to mention it here because I knew noone would care.
He would have won, I very much believe that. But you see? If he had been a horse who took money then people would have noticed. Instead onlt people who wagered on him and were actually paying attention noticed. yeah, an idiot friend of mine said he wouldnt have won, when I asked why, his answer was that he wasnt good enough to beat those. So I replied that Seek Gold was? Most people just do no not watch races. I mean even on this thread people have claimed that the jock eased up on Drift. Right, sure, he hit him 20 times with the stick and rode like a tasmanian devil all teh way to the wire, yeah, he eased up, ok sure.

Thanks for making me laugh, Mike... sometimes, you are so dramatic about things, it's like a breath of fresh air. LOL