John Mckee/Lukas/Westwon

[The Bid]

Hes much worse than Vernon Bush, you cant even compare the two guys. Vernon gets bad horses beat, Mckee gets the best horses beat, over, and over, and over. Its like groundhog day

Hes a liability to himself, the horse, and the other riders

[smartyalex]

Imagine having this "Jock" as your "go to" rider every race.......oh how I know the PAIN!!

[The Bid]

Without Holthus, Mckee, would be lucky to be an 8 percent jock. I dont know why anyone rides him, and I have NO IDEA why Holthus continues to ride him. Right now hes riding for two cryptkeepers, hes due for a wake up call in the near future.

The most amazing thing to me is watching these races unfold....you can see the trouble, its just like driving a car, you know if you go to x spot there is going to be something there. Im sure youve all been in a car and had someone switch lanes on you, saw someone driving erratically and devised a plan to avoid them. Mckee, doesnt have that in him. If he sees that happening he would go into the eye of the storm, probably speed up to get there faster. That is the kind of forethought he has, none. Hes dangerous to himself, his horse, and whatever owner is willing to ride him

[stonegossard]

Just watched the head on.......at one point he definetly had room to go up the inside once they hit the stretch....but that hole closed too much...he had plenty of room between the leader and the other 2 horses outside to make a move off the rail...might have actually won.....

definetly not a smart ride........I actually used to think he was a pretty damn good jock while he was at River Downs....even when he stepped up to CD.....but he really hasnt turned out to be anything special....just you middle of the road jock who rides ok once in a while ...definetly not a jock you want riding in a big stake race...

[smartyalex]

WESTWON, you are F-A-I-R-W-E-A-T-H-E-R!!!!!!! Don't CRY because your "Derby" horse got smoked today. I wouldn't say that Holthus and Lukas are "cryptkeepers". Your horse got smoked. Enough already. Cry somewhere else!

[The Bid]

Smartyalex

Do you have any grasp of this game at all? I dont think anyone is crying because a horse got beat, I think its pretty fair to say the ride was pure butchery. Im sure there are people in here who have a lot more riding on a horse than a 2 dollar show wager. You do realize that is a 575k auction purchase that John Mckee, propped and bounced off the rail midstretch, right? That wasnt enough though, he then tried to rerally a horse who had no shot to hit the board.

I think you need to watch the race again.....Come back in here if you are sharp enough to realize what a bad ride that was. I dont think you comprehend how brutal that actually was. Nobody is crying about a horse losing, Im worried about people dying, or horses hurting themselves because of incompetence.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Mckee definitely made a bad decision when he decided to go to the inside, but he didn't run the horse into the rail. When Westwon slipped beside the horse, the horse came over into Westwon, and caused Westwon to hit the rail. The horse didn't almost fall either. Of course, you always do run the risk of a horse getting injured when they do anything like Westwon did. Westwon wouldn't have been anywhere close to winning this race regardless of the ride, and I like this horse. I fear that he just isn't as good as I originally thought him to be.

If you want to see a brutal trip in a race that a horse should and would have won, go watch Chocolate Lava's last race.

[The Bid]

Are you on drugs?

That horse wasnt supposed to win in that spot, he was supposed to get some foundation. He wasnt supposed to prop, lose action, and be bounced off a rail, I can assure you of that. If you dont think Mckee was the sole reason that horse was in a bad spot you need to go rewatch that race. He rushed him into a bad spot, then continued to be a fool and get ping ponged around, then to top it all of he finishes under a heavy ride for no money.

Look guys, if you dont watch races often, Im sorry. If you do you understand how horrific that was. Im sure anybody who watches races on the steady can recognize that as pure butchery