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Old 01-18-2007, 04:41 PM
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PG: You're right. Phil Collins is not a band. Genesis is a band. Just because Phil Collins was in Genesis, he is no longer a band when he goes out without Genesis. Then he is a solo artist. Phil Collins kicks ass, so he "counts" whether he is solo or in a band. That's the best definition anyone could give for it. Alanis Morissette having been in a band does not make Alanis Morissette a band. One person cannot be a band (except for that guy at Venice Beach who plays a washboard and stomps on drums while playing a harmonica and a guitar). It's simple. It's an artist (a person's name) or a band (a band name).

Examples of solo artists:
Phil Collins
Natalie Merchant
Laura Dawn
Nina Gordon
Examples of their respective bands:
Genesis
10,000 Maniacs
Fluffer
Veruca Salt



Input doesn't matter, they are not a band. Let's use Alanis Morissette again here. It doesn't matter if her band comes up with parts or influences the way she writes or performs....they are still HER band. She is not a band. One person cannot be a band -- it defies the definition of the word in the first place.

I can attest to this personally. I played plenty of shows with a band when I was in college. We gigged together, we worked on harmonies together, we worked on songs together. We were not a band. When the flyer went up it said "Brian W. Spencer." I am not a band. I can gaurantee you that. I actually even know how it feels -- there is no way no matter who plays with me or who influences that the name "Brian W. Spencer" is a band. I know, because I'm Brian W. Spencer....that's me. I'm not a band. I'm one person. The very definition of the word dictates that I cannot be a band.


It's really neither here nor there, and in the big scheme not a big deal -- but there is a very distinct, and for some people, very important difference between being solo and being IN a band, let alone insinuating that one solo artist can be a band.
so what is MSG? lol
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:03 PM
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so what is MSG? lol

i don't get it. you mean like the unnecessary starchy Chinese food ingredient?
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:05 PM
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i don't get it. you mean like the unnecessary starchy Chinese food ingredient?
lol no the mcauley schenker group
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:12 PM
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lol no the mcauley schenker group
i got hungry for a second there.
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:23 PM
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i got hungry for a second there.
now was he thinking of himself being the axe grinder he is and being a brother of one of the biggest bands in metal or was he saying yeah i'm the main driving force but i realize that we are still a band and i want us to be known that way. like you said some fans have total disregard for the rest of the band. and he and you and i see it differently then your average fan . i used to play also and have many friends in bands and i see the contributions we all make even tho when they hit the stage with a band name alot of fans latch to the lead singer anyways, he always gets the attention and comes to mind first for most fans
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:32 PM
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now was he thinking of himself being the axe grinder he is and being a brother of one of the biggest bands in metal or was he saying yeah i'm the main driving force but i realize that we are still a band and i want us to be known that way. like you said some fans have total disregard for the rest of the band. and he and you and i see it differently then your average fan . i used to play also and have many friends in bands and i see the contributions we all make even tho when they hit the stage with a band name alot of fans latch to the lead singer anyways, he always gets the attention and comes to mind first for most fans
I think it takes a certain kind of person to do that, because there are tons of egos and tons of feelings to deal with.

When I had a band, I would be the first to tell you that all but one of them was more musically talented than me, but they had no desire to front anything. They wanted to play music, they didn't want to be the face of the music. That was okay with me. If we had stuck around together, I'd have had no problem calling us a band and taking a name -- but the fact remained that I was the one spending all the money and i was the one doing all the legwork in promotion and booking and travel arrangements etc, so in that sense, for me, it was never about ego -- but about the realities of who was doing what, and who wanted what.

i think for a lot of bands it's a big combination of those two -- who WANTS to be the face of it and who is comfortable in doing it, along with who is putting in what amount of work on the whole thing.
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Old 01-18-2007, 06:52 PM
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Bachman-Turner Overdrive?

Tom Petty and the Heart Breakers?
Bruced SPringsteringer and the E-street band?

Annie Lennox is in the band The Eurythmics? She is/was the Eurythmics.
ELO replacable parts, Jeff Lynne was the band

I guess the problem I have is that some artists are the band, the other parts easily replaced and others are not.

Pure Band...
Rush
ZZ Top
Steely Dan (Donald Fagan needs his guitarists or its not the same)
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Old 01-18-2007, 05:26 PM
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i got hungry for a second there.
when i think of david lee roth in his band under his own name i surely see steve vai as his equal if not more. when i think david lee roth i think steve vai-guitar god. i dont think steve would say i play for david lee roth i think he would say i play in david lee roth
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