Steve Haskin;s Top Derby Contendars

[Sightseek]

Good news guys!

I just got back from lunch and picked up a "I'm sorry your career is slipping away" card for Zito....would anyone else like to sign it?

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Good news guys!

I just got back from lunch and picked up a "I'm sorry your career is slipping away" card for Zito....would anyone else like to sign it?

I think we need to make a movie about is. It would be the most over-hyped movie ever--sort of like Zito's career.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I think we need to make a movie about is. It would be the most over-hyped movie ever--sort of like Zito's career.

I can't bash Zito, because he is who he is, but he has mishandled Sun King's career. This horse ran the two best races of his life in a 7F sprint and the Met Mile. So what does Nick do? Run him in the Classic at a mile and a 1/4.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Jax Cajun

I can't bash Zito, because he is who he is, but he has mishandled Sun King's career. This horse ran the two best races of his life in a 7F sprint and the Met Mile. So what does Nick do? Run him in the Classic at a mile and a 1/4.

What about his Whitney?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Jax Cajun

I can't bash Zito, because he is who he is, but he has mishandled Sun King's career. This horse ran the two best races of his life in a 7F sprint and the Met Mile. So what does Nick do? Run him in the Classic at a mile and a 1/4.

Considering the horse had only lost by a nose at 9 furlongs to the horse that won the Classic it is tough to say he shouldn't have been there.

True true. He did have that outside post on the rail friendly Breeder's Classic.

[Linny]

Originally Posted by Jax Cajun

I can't bash Zito, because he is who he is, but he has mishandled Sun King's career. This horse ran the two best races of his life in a 7F sprint and the Met Mile. So what does Nick do? Run him in the Classic at a mile and a 1/4.

What was he to do? Lay him off for a year and bring him back in the '07 BC Mile and 70yards?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Jax Cajun

I can't bash Zito, because he is who he is, but he has mishandled Sun King's career. This horse ran the two best races of his life in a 7F sprint and the Met Mile. So what does Nick do? Run him in the Classic at a mile and a 1/4.

You fail to realize that could have easily been an owners decision. Do you think Pletcher actually wanted to Keyed Entry in the Derby? um no

Originally Posted by Scav

You fail to realize that could have easily been an owners decision. Do you think Pletcher actually wanted to Keyed Entry in the Derby? um no

Without a doubt the owners have a lot of say. Any wonder why Sun King is not standing stud right now? Tracy Farmer loves to watch that horse run, so do I.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Nice of Haskin to have 11 horses in his top 10.....and to include only 55 different horses in that write up. It must have painful to leave Tiago out.


In my opinion, you have six viable contenders as of right now. The top four of which are real elite contenders---you have a decent gap back to the 5th and 6th ranked contenders....and I believe you take a big step back after those two horses. You also have two sensationally talented horses, who are not viable contenders because they are lightly raced and wintering in Dubai. One of which (Day Pass) would also be quite doubtful to see out 10 furlongs against top company.

* My Elite 4 include:

Any Given Saturday, Nobiz Like Shobiz, Street Sense, and Tiz Wonderful.

* My two viable contenders who must further develop:

Great Hunter and Hard Spun.

* The two potential stars who I don't view as viable Derby candidates right now:

Day Pass and Minefield.

[mark2061mn]

My number one pick is the green tortoise!!

if rags to riches were a male, i'd give him a pretty big look, but she isn't, so i wont.

exhale did look really spectacular as well, and looked like he could run alot longer with no problem.

i think nobiz is overrated, but has a look. hard spun has a big look to me as well.

there is another horse that nobody mentions, but the name escapes me right now.

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Nice of Haskin to have 11 horses in his top 10.....and to include only 55 different horses in that write up. It must have painful to leave Tiago out.


In my opinion, you have six viable contenders as of right now. The top four of which are real elite contenders---you have a decent gap back to the 5th and 6th ranked contenders....and I believe you take a big step back after those two horses. You also have two sensationally talented horses, who are not viable contenders because they are lightly raced and wintering in Dubai. One of which (Day Pass) would also be quite doubtful to see out 10 furlongs against top company.

* My Elite 4 include:

Any Given Saturday, Nobiz Like Shobiz, Street Sense, and Tiz Wonderful.

* My two viable contenders who must further develop:

Great Hunter and Hard Spun.

* The two potential stars who I don't view as viable Derby candidates right now:

Day Pass and Minefield.

No Circular Quay?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Jax Cajun

I can't bash Zito, because he is who he is, but he has mishandled Sun King's career. This horse ran the two best races of his life in a 7F sprint and the Met Mile. So what does Nick do? Run him in the Classic at a mile and a 1/4.

Winnings: 22 Starts: 6 - 4 - 5, $1,992,978

2004: 3rd BC Juvenile(G1,8.5F), Champagne S.(G1,8.5F)
2005: 1st Pennsylvania Derby(G2,9F), Tampa Bay Derby(G3,8.5F), Leonard Richards S.(G3,8.5F), 2nd Haskell H.(G1,9F), 3rd Jockey Club Gold Cup(G1,10F)

2006: 1st Commonwealth BCS.(G2,7F), 2nd Whitney H.(G1,9F), Metropolitan H.(G1,8F), Albert the Great S.(Bel,8.5F), 3rd Woodward S.(G1,9F)