Steve Haskin;s Top Derby Contendars

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

We will see come year end when Zito is again no better than 20th in trainer stats.

Just because someone doesn't start a zillion horses doesn't mean he's not a top trainer.

Maybe he has chosen to have a smaller stable than in prior years.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who can train Anromedas Hero to earnngs of $800,000+ doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame; he probably deserves to have his own wing.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who can train Anromedas Hero to earnngs of $800,000+ doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame; he probably deserves to have his own wing.

Beautiful.

Originally Posted by SentToStud

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who can train Anromedas Hero to earnngs of $800,000+ doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame; he probably deserves to have his own wing.

That's strong!!

Knocking Zito is laughable. Great thread.

[Independent George]

Zito went from "an average trainer at best" to a "low-life scum" in about 10 minutes.
I'm reporting this to the Italian-American Anti-Defamation League.

Capisce ????

Originally Posted by Independent George

Zito went from "an average trainer at best" to a "low-life scum" in about 10 minutes.
I'm reporting this to the Italian-American Anti-Defamation League.

Capisce ????

His training abilities are average and as a person he is a low life scum. Just my opinion.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

His training abilities are average and as a person he is a low life scum. Just my opinion.

What experience do you have with Zito where you could call him a low life scum. Fact is, FROM ALL ACCOUNTS, from people that I know, that know him and from his interviews, he seems like a heck of a person and a person I would love to chill with at the track......

And, from what I have observed, his horses are always well managed and taken care of.

Originally Posted by Scav

What experience do you have with Zito where you could call him a low life scum. Fact is, FROM ALL ACCOUNTS, from people that I know, that know him and from his interviews, he seems like a heck of a person and a person I would love to chill with at the track......

And, from what I have observed, his horses are always well managed and taken care of.

I will say his horses are taken care of very well. I will never deny his passion and love for horses. That part about him is something to admire. However, I think his training ability (able to get his horses ready, able to figure out how to improve a horse etc etc is whats avg). All I am going to say is that there have been several times where I have seen Zito be less than a man. Not only to me but to other people. That is all. But his love for horses and passion for the game is great.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I will say his horses are taken care of very well. I will never deny his passion and love for horses. That part about him is something to admire. However, I think his training ability (able to get his horses ready, able to figure out how to improve a horse etc etc is whats avg). All I am going to say is that there have been several times where I have seen Zito be less than a man. Not only to me but to other people. That is all. But his love for horses and passion for the game is great.

So he is a part of the Playa's club, you don't have your card yet? I got mine when I was 14

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Scav

So he is a part of the Playa's club, you don't have your card yet? I got mine when I was 14

yet the card was then suspended at 15....

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I will say his horses are taken care of very well. I will never deny his passion and love for horses. That part about him is something to admire. However, I think his training ability (able to get his horses ready, able to figure out how to improve a horse etc etc is whats avg). All I am going to say is that there have been several times where I have seen Zito be less than a man. Not only to me but to other people. That is all. But his love for horses and passion for the game is great.

I met him at GP last year. Was a cool guy. Actually suprised he took the time to have a conversation with me (a guy he never met). Not sure what your beef with the guy is. As far as a trainer....you are right...he is average...only won 2 Kentucky Derbies.....gimme a friggin break....

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Scav

What experience do you have with Zito where you could call him a low life scum. Fact is, FROM ALL ACCOUNTS, from people that I know, that know him and from his interviews, he seems like a heck of a person and a person I would love to chill with at the track......

And, from what I have observed, his horses are always well managed and taken care of.

I'd elaborate on this...at the '05 Kee Sept sale I walked up to him and asked about a horse in his care. He was elated that someone he didn't know actually cared that much to stop and ask and thanked me for being a fan of the horse. I'm willing to bet that most any trainer in the industry would not have been so nice or willing to give me a full account of a horse as Zito did.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I'd elaborate on this...at the '05 Kee Sept sale I walked up to him and asked about a horse in his care. He was elated that someone he didn't know actually cared that much to stop and ask and thanked me for being a fan of the horse. I'm willing to bet that most any trainer in the industry would not have been so nice or willing to give me a full account of a horse as Zito did.

It probably helped that you're a hot babe too, right?

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

It probably helped that you're a hot babe too, right?

Took the words right out of my mouth--lol.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

It probably helped that you're a hot babe too, right?

LOL, the night of the twilight racing card he did very obviously check me out as I walked by, but men will be men, as we both very well know. Seriously though, he was very nice and honest when I asked him about one of his horses. Most trainers won't give people the time of day unless they think you own a horse.

[Cajungator26]

I've heard that Zito is quite the ladies man, but that doesn't make him a low life scum. As long as his horses are taken care of, that's all that's important to me.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by merasmag

great point was 2nd by a length in the 8th at gulfstream after jara lost the whip in the stretch at 10-1 (greely's legacy was 4th-lol)
amatuers, see ya lata, stuff to do now that i wasted an hour on this

you realize of course that those were LAST YEARS potential derby contenders?

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by merasmag

lol-who do you think you're talking to???-since it seems i need to spell it out for you, i'm talking about zito as a trainer and great point as a horse on my watch list that anyone with any horse sense woulda bet on today---now, outta respect to kasept, let's take this to pm if you want to, but i have a nasty e-mail to send to my ll about my lack of heat (and i am drunk enuf now to do it)

you go right ahead and PM me if you want.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by merasmag

kasepts the one that said keep personal stuff personal...but i'm actually leaving this laptop and movin on down the road to another pc-bartenders switch shifts, i switch bars---if u get a good pick let me know (greeley's legacy-lol)

just an FYI...nowhere will you see that I put out Greeley's Legacy as a betting choice, that is the reason that thread was in the 'paddock' and not 'selections'...and I did not put a dime on him...I merely brought up the fact that he was running after an extended break... the reason I did that is because I have a personal history with the horse, and his career, however bad, is of interest to me. But hey...when you hit the next bar we'll chat again.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

But hey...when you hit the next bar we'll chat again.

i wish they had a snack bar and a beer stand where i work right now...