Steve Haskin;s Top Derby Contendars

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Well I am still waiting for you to tell me what the good reasoning is?

You will be waiting a long time.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You will be waiting a long time.

So you dont know. Basically, you know just as much as I do. Zito has no path for this horse, no plans, no direction at all. Why, I don't know. But it seems this horse is wasting away in Zito's barn.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

So you dont know. Basically, you know just as much as I do. Zito has no path for this horse, no plans, no direction at all. Why, I don't know. But it seems this horse is wasting away in Zito's barn.

Hey, troll, don't put words in my mouth.

Who exactly do you think you are fooling around here?

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Hey, troll, don't put words in my mouth.

Who exactly do you think you are fooling around here?

I didnt put words in your mouth at all. But I can only assume you know as much as I do since that is what you are showing me.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

I didnt put words in your mouth at all. But I can only assume you know as much as I do since that is what you are showing me.

Once again, troll, who do you think you are fooling with this act? You did not just say I didn't know ( which I don't and never even implied I did ) but you insinuated much more with the following.....

Originally Posted by eurobounce

So you dont know. Basically, you know just as much as I do. Zito has no path for this horse, no plans, no direction at all. Why, I don't know. But it seems this horse is wasting away in Zito's barn.

You said I don't know....true, you said you don't know.....true, but then you said Nick Zito didn't know........unsubstantiatable and highly unlikely.

You are a troll who posts to cause trouble. You fool nobody and only amuse a few. If you are going to troll at least do a better job.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Once again, troll, who do you think you are fooling with this act? You did not just say I didn't know ( which I don't and never even implied I did ) but you insinuated much more with the following.....





You said I don't know....true, you said you don't know.....true, but then you said Nick Zito didn't know........unsubstantiatable and highly unlikely.

You are a troll who posts to cause trouble. You fool nobody and only amuse a few. If you are going to troll at least do a better job.

sorrry...SO YOU DONT KNOW should have been a question. I never said Zito doesnt know. I said he doesnt have any direction for this horse. I havent heard of plans so therefore I can only conclude he doesnt have any.

[Linny]

Eurobounce, you must think pretty highly of yourself. Just because YOU don't know what Nick's plans are then clearly he has no plans. Does Nick consult with you on schedules/plans/possible starts and training for all his stock or just this colt?

I don't even know what horse you are talking about but if he's a MSW winner of ($16k) my guess is that he's looking for an allowance (as he did with Bellamy Rd, Sun King, Noble Causeway etc) before trying stakes. As such he may not have mapped out which stakes the horse belongs in.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

sorrry...SO YOU DONT KNOW should have been a question. I never said Zito doesnt know. I said he doesnt have any direction for this horse. I havent heard of plans so therefore I can only conclude he doesnt have any.

You are lying and here's the proof.........

Originally Posted by eurobounce

So you dont know. Basically, you know just as much as I do. Zito has no path for this horse, no plans, no direction at all. Why, I don't know. But it seems this horse is wasting away in Zito's barn.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

sorrry...SO YOU DONT KNOW should have been a question. I never said Zito doesnt know. I said he doesnt have any direction for this horse. I havent heard of plans so therefore I can only conclude he doesnt have any.

So if Zito doesn't personally make you aware of the plans for one of his horses then that means he doesn't have any? That's some interesting logic.

1) Street Sense — He's planning only two starts before the Derby—a one-turn race (possibly the grade II Hutcheson) and then the grade I Toyota Blue Grass.

No, no, no, no!!! What in the hell is going on with this?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

So you dont know. Basically, you know just as much as I do. Zito has no path for this horse, no plans, no direction at all. Why, I don't know. But it seems this horse is wasting away in Zito's barn.

Are we racing robotic horses now? Geez that sucks that someone isn't willing to ruin a horse for the whole year for the Derby.

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Are we racing robotic horses now? Geez that sucks that someone isn't willing to ruin a horse for the whole year for the Derby.

What do plans and direction have with racing robotic horses. The horse isnt injured to my knowledge. But Zito has no plans for the horse. If he does, please share with us if you know.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

What do plans and direction have with racing robotic horses. The horse isnt injured to my knowledge. But Zito has no plans for the horse. If he does, please share with us if you know.

Because you haven't read anything in the Blood-Horse, TT's or elsewhere you just assume that Zito has none for this horse?

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Because you haven't read anything in the Blood-Horse, TT's or elsewhere you just assume that Zito has none for this horse?

What else is there to assume? Should I assume there is a path just because it is Zito?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

So you dont know. Basically, you know just as much as I do. Zito has no path for this horse, no plans, no direction at all. Why, I don't know. But it seems this horse is wasting away in Zito's barn.

he got 5 in there one year......i think that says it all...

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

he got 5 in there one year......i think that says it all...

I guess one year is good to have 5. But I dont believe any of those 5 won.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

just getting them there is the question you were saying no...if thats the case he has pleanty of exp mapping out the graded moneys...no wait he should ask you..i forgot...my bad..

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

just getting them there is the question you were saying no...if thats the case he has pleanty of exp mapping out the graded moneys...no wait he should ask you..i forgot...my bad..

He does have experience and at one time he was one of the best. But you can't always live in the 1990's.

[slotdirt]

Since it's surely been since the '90's since Nick Zito had any success.

[slotdirt]

Did euro just use Zito's 2007 stats in this argument?